2004 4.0 shut off while driving and wont start.

Big Jim M · Oct 15, 2015

Jbird I apologize!

JBird227 said:
Because for the last 8 years I have been commuting 85 miles ONE way to work, I ride a motorcycle when its warm, and when its not its my truck. If you don't like a K&N air filter that's fine, I have been happy with mine.

I meant that post as a general post, not any accusation to you. Yes I think them filters cause more wear than the stock filters and I want everyone to know it. But if you are happy I guess that is all that matters.
Simply not thinking about your post, I apologize again.
Big Jim :wub:

enjr44 · Oct 16, 2015

Checking the compression is good; but, an engine that just up and quits didn't do it because of low compression. Over heat it until it stops, yes. Break something inside, yes (along with the banging and clanking that goes along with that). But, it didn't suddenly wear out the rings and get compression too low to run. The durn things will run on 3 cylinders. Holes in pistons, valves burned with pie shaped pieces missing, etc. they will still run, not just stop.

It stopped because it lost electrics to make the sparklers go off at the right time, or fuel to burn or air to make it all happen.

JBird227 · Oct 17, 2015

Big Jim M said:
I meant that post as a general post, not any accusation to you. Yes I think them filters cause more wear than the stock filters and I want everyone to know it. But if you are happy I guess that is all that matters.
Simply not thinking about your post, I apologize again.
Big Jim

Sorry man, slightly stressed out....

Starting the compression test now

Big Jim M · Oct 17, 2015

Jbird leave the compression alone and find out what is really wrong with it. Like the post above said it will run with really low compression. Since it isn't running at all it is either fuel or spark!
Big Jim

JBird227 · Oct 17, 2015

I did the compression test :bawling:

#1- 0 PSI
#2- 0 PSI
#3- 150 PSI
#4- 35 PSI
#5- 15 PSI
#6- 15 PSI

Not what I was hoping for.....

enjr44 · Oct 17, 2015

Well, something big happened if the compression check it correct. It didn't just stop running.
Was there coolant in it?? My daughter told me her 4.0 just quit. It sure did. No coolant in it and there was water in the oil and oil in the radiator. It over heated and she drove it until it quit running.

Do a glove test!! If the head gaskets went, it should jump all over the place.

delaware74b · Oct 18, 2015

It looks like you had at least both timing chain tensioners fail. No compression both sides means both timing chains have jumped and $$$$. These engines will run fine and just quit like what happened to the OP's engine. At this point, it's probably cheaper to replace the long block than to rebuild. A lot of specialized tools and training is needed to rebuild one of these SOHC motors. You can rebuild, if you have the time and money. Pull the upper section of the front timing cover and look inside and you may find the guides have broken.

Haywire6000 · Oct 18, 2015

With no compression in two cylinders that must have cranked funny.

JBird227 · Oct 20, 2015

I still haven't done anything with it yet, Im not going to rebuild it because of time. It was 35 this morning on the motorcycle and that just wasn't fun. I have called all the local junk yards and none have a engine except one. They said they have 5, and they all have skipped timing. So I might end up having to go with a rebuilt if one doesn't pop up soon. Just been doing a lot of googling trying to find the right price and stuff, not sure where I should buy.

JBird227 · Oct 20, 2015

Haywire6000 said:
With no compression in two cylinders that must have cranked funny.

Honestly it cranked like normal, not fast, no odd sound or anything. Thats why I wasn't expecting those readings, I was thinking it was something electrical

JBird227 · Nov 5, 2015

So I looked every where for a used engine, nobody has one. I ended up dropping $2500 for a rebuilt from powertrain. Seemed to be the best price and warrenty. I was quoted $1038 for labor to change it so I did it with the help of a friend.
eneded up being the timing chain tentioner failed. First couple pics are of my old engine, and the others are the new and what it should look like. I just put the first mile on the new engine, cant believe the difference. Thanks for the help, hopefully someone else can learn from this thread. This was the first engine I have changed, and I was amazed at how simple it was, as long as you have time to do it. I have a motorcycle that allowed me to get to work and stuff without having my truck. Its well worth the savings to do it yourself.
I couldn't get a picture of the plastic that was laying in the bottom of the engine, I never could have got it clean. I feel with the mileage it was the right choice. $2500 sure beats a new truck payment.

RonD · Nov 6, 2015

Thanks for the update

And good work on getting the rebuilt engine in :icon_thumby:

While used engines are less money you could be buying someone else's problems

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