SAS with leafs

that_one_guy · Mar 12, 2011

So im looking into getting a built d44 from a wagoneer that is all set up for leafs. Is it going to be more efficient to do leafs or stay coils. Im wanting to run 35s with a low cg. I do alot of snow wheelin and trails. My truck is a 97 extended cab btw. Any opinions and help would be great.

The Jester Race · Mar 13, 2011

If the axle is setup for leaves then it will probably be easier to do a leaf sprung SAS.

Don't know if it helps, but here is mine.....I really need to put together a build thread.

The Jester Race said:
With the shackles in front you get a lot of bump steer, in my case it was so bad it threw it into a death wobble. If the truck is going to see much pavement I suggest a rear shackle setup, but if its a trail only truck it really doesn't make any difference.

Here is mine

What are you trying to accomplish? A full blown crawler? Mild SAS build? How much lift? What size tires? Are you dead set on leaf springs or would coils be better for what you want to do?

-Jester

The Jester Race said:
I just copied these CLICK, then welded them to some 1/4" plate to mount them outboard of the frame, then welded some 1/4" gussets to the frame. My shackles are made out of 3/8" strap, and the holes are 4.5" on center.

For the front I used a piece of 2x4 1/4" wall tube for the cross member and some 3.5" OD 1/4" wall square tube to make the hangers. I made all my cuts with a 4.5" grinder.

I used Rancho 44150 springs with one medium length add-a-leaf, spring rate of 250lbs. If I remember right they are 4" lift rear jeep wrangler springs. They were laying around my dads shop and he said I could have them, so thats what I used . Without the add-a-leaf they were too soft and were almost flat at ride height. Over all my suspension is about 8" of lift.

I think your are a little ambitious to try and do a SAS in a weekend but if you plan right and have everything ready to go it might be possible. It took me 3 months(weekends only)to do mine, but mine fought me every step of the way.

-Jester

-Jester

that_one_guy · Mar 13, 2011

Thanks for the great pictures man! Those helped alot. Just trying to see how everyone is mounting spring hangers. Sweet lookin b2 btw too.

The Jester Race · Mar 13, 2011

Thanks, and no problem.

Here is another one.
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70021

And this is what NOT to do.
http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100305&page=2

-Jester

88_Eddie · Mar 13, 2011

i say leafs, much simpler, flexes just as good, less complicated, cheaper

i'm not planning on it, but if i ever SAS my b2 (or any vehicle) i'll do leafs

RockRanger · Mar 27, 2011

I had leafs on my 93 at first. It flexed great but ended up trashing the leafs pretty fast. I was able to keep the truck a bit lower as well.

I ended up changing to a 3 link. It sits about an inch higher then before with about 6" of up travel. I can still fit under a 7' garage door with 37s so it still isn't super tall. I get pretty much the same amount of travel as before but it rides a whole lot better now.

jmidd2011 · Aug 25, 2013

what exactly is the second diagram? and can i get some more info on the rear mount? it looks like a piece of square tube with a notch for 1/4 wall pipe ? i kno im probably a little slow or just over thinkin this.. and on the front it looks like theres a piece of 2x4 behind the front one with 45* edges :icon_confused:

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Ford78 · Aug 26, 2013

jmidd2011 said:
what exactly is the second diagram? and can i get some more info on the rear mount? it looks like a piece of square tube with a notch for 1/4 wall pipe ? i kno im probably a little slow or just over thinkin this.. and on the front it looks like theres a piece of 2x4 behind the front one with 45* edges ?

For your rear mount may want to look into Ruffs stuff outrigger mount. I have them on mine and you can get their shackel mount their too. For my front i went a mount fron Skys off road.

kryptonitecb · Aug 26, 2013

You can get mounts for the rear cheaper than ruffstuff however I have their mounts that I plan on using in the front.

The 3 link is easy to do and I notice alot of guys here have done it. Leafs are even easier though and as mentioned before they're alot cheaper. Both have pro's and con's you just have to make a personal decision on which way you want to go.

Sent from the road while ignoring traffic

jmidd2011 · Aug 26, 2013

ive got a 87 ranger . i decided leafs up front . i have some 4" lift leafs from a 86 chevy short wide . im just trying to find the easiest and best way to mount them . i dont really need a bunch of flex im from oklahoma.. wer not known for mountains lol and the 325lbs spring rate will help wen i swap to a 5.0 . thanks for the help ill check out ruff stuff n probably copy some brackets . im just gona make sure my rig aint on the "wat not to do list " or look all hacked up.

jmidd2011 · Aug 26, 2013

ford78
nice build! looks like a real clean set up. if u culd put up a couple close pics of your rear mount with some deminsions it would ba appriciated .

Ford78 · Aug 26, 2013

jmidd2011 said:
ford78
nice build! looks like a real clean set up. if u culd put up a couple close pics of your rear mount with some deminsions it would ba appriciated .

Thanks, heres a pic of my rear mount

Mudstomper99 · Aug 26, 2013

That is a badass rear mount. I plan on changing mine up in the future.
To the op I did my swap (dana30) leaf springs start to finish less than 10 hours. Very simple in my opinion
Here's how mine sits with 33s

jmidd2011 · Aug 26, 2013

ok .. riddle me this.. why is everyones leaf springs mountd out side the frame rails? is it bc the fw axles?

n_bannerman · Aug 26, 2013

I did a dana 30 from a yj and kept it spring under using rancho 44044 springs( 2.5" lift wagoneer) along with liquid iron sliders mounted in the front instead of shackles and ended up with 0 lift but looking for 2" more lift due to only having 2 inches of up travel before my steering hits the pitman arm.
Ranger is on 35's and even with my runner that is stock

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Flex

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Ride height with spring over axle(to tall for my liking)

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