2001 ranger

[DaimonCarpenter]

Thank u I will have to get back with u on it

So if there is not a wire for number 19 what do I do

 

[DaimonCarpenter]

So if there is not a wire for number 19 what do I do

 

[RonD]

You will need to add a wire to pin 19 or get the SGI-5E interface

But I am still puzzled about you getting a speed signal on the OBD2 reader????
Where is that coming from?
Is it correct, or close enough

GEM module or 4WABS module are the only 2 sources

 

[DaimonCarpenter]

You will need to add a wire to pin 19 or get the SGI-5E interface

But I am still puzzled about you getting a speed signal on the OBD2 reader????
Where is that coming from?
Is it correct, or close enough

GEM module or 4WABS module are the only 2 sources

The OBD2 reader seem to read the correct speed from 50 all the way to 80

 

[DaimonCarpenter]

The OBD2 reader seem to read the correct speed from 50 all the way to 80

Adding the wire to pin 19 where do I wire it into

 

[RonD]

Then you have a speed signal at the PCM, just not sure from where, my guess would be from 4WABS?

But transmission shifting should be OK if so

On the PCM pin 58 should be a grey/black wire, on a 2000 Explorer PCM, thats "speed signal in" from 4WABS
So lets assume thats the case

PCM connector numbering here: https://www.ranger-forums.com/attachments/4-0l-ohv-sohc-v6-tech-33/62644d1377656726-anyone-have-97-4-0l-ohv-pcm-pinout-97-explorer-pcm.png

Check that pin 58 is the grey/black wire
You will need to splice into this wire, and run wire into cab and splice it to instrument clusters, grey/black wire, don't cut the grey/black wire, splice into it at both locations, as that should get Cruise working as well

There will be a grey/black wire at pin 19 on 4WABS so you can splice in there instead of PCM, up to you

 

[DaimonCarpenter]

Then you have a speed signal at the PCM, just not sure from where, my guess would be from 4WABS?

But transmission shifting should be OK if so

On the PCM pin 58 should be a grey/black wire, on a 2000 Explorer PCM, thats "speed signal in" from 4WABS
So lets assume thats the case

PCM connector numbering here: https://www.ranger-forums.com/attachments/4-0l-ohv-sohc-v6-tech-33/62644d1377656726-anyone-have-97-4-0l-ohv-pcm-pinout-97-explorer-pcm.png

Check that pin 58 is the grey/black wire
You will need to splice into this wire, and run wire into cab and splice it to instrument clusters, grey/black wire, don't cut the grey/black wire, splice into it at both locations, as that should get Cruise working as well

There will be a grey/black wire at pin 19 on 4WABS so you can splice in there instead of PCM, up to you

I guess I'll have to use the 58 pin on the PCM wiring instead of pin 19 on the 4wABS cuz there's no pin or wire in 19. Other than wiring into the cluster where else do I need to wire into

 

[DaimonCarpenter]

Then you have a speed signal at the PCM, just not sure from where, my guess would be from 4WABS?

But transmission shifting should be OK if so

On the PCM pin 58 should be a grey/black wire, on a 2000 Explorer PCM, thats "speed signal in" from 4WABS
So lets assume thats the case

PCM connector numbering here: https://www.ranger-forums.com/attachments/4-0l-ohv-sohc-v6-tech-33/62644d1377656726-anyone-have-97-4-0l-ohv-pcm-pinout-97-explorer-pcm.png

Check that pin 58 is the grey/black wire
You will need to splice into this wire, and run wire into cab and splice it to instrument clusters, grey/black wire, don't cut the grey/black wire, splice into it at both locations, as that should get Cruise working as well

There will be a grey/black wire at pin 19 on 4WABS so you can splice in there instead of PCM, up to you

There's no wire at Ben 19 on the ABS so I will have to use the 58 on the PCM and wired into the cluster and what other location just to be clear.

 

[DaimonCarpenter]

There's no wire at Ben 19 on the ABS so I will have to use the 58 on the PCM and wired into the cluster and what other location just to be clear.

Also I want to thank you for your time and your help

 

[RonD]

Is there a grey/black wire on 4WABS?

The PCM must be getting Speed Signal from somewhere

 

[win]

On 2001 V6 Ranger, speed signal comes from PCM (now missing). 2000 Expo speed signal comes from ABS and G-Force transducer (not in Ranger) so, nothing to generate a speed signal.

Options: Graft in Expo ABS and G-Force sensor or consider a Dakota Digital solution.

If lucky, the current transmission will support a gear driven VSS making for an easy and inexpensive solution.

 

[Thedrill]

Hi, New to the forum, I have followed this thread and have tried to get my speedometer working, (2001 3.0 ranger with 2000 mountaineer V8 swap) I connected a pin to my 4x2 ABS pin 19 , also connected a wire to pin 58 on the ecu, connected them both to pin 1 on the black cluster plug, (grey/black).
I still have no speedometer working, do I need the mountaineer ABS unit swapping in?

Thanks.

 

[RonD]

Hi, New to the forum, I have followed this thread and have tried to get my speedometer working, (2001 3.0 ranger with 2000 mountaineer V8 swap) I connected a pin to my 4x2 ABS pin 19 , also connected a wire to pin 58 on the ecu, connected them both to pin 1 on the black cluster plug, (grey/black).
I still have no speedometer working, do I need the mountaineer ABS unit swapping in?

Thanks.

You should probably start your own thread for this

2001 Ranger used the OSS sensor on the transmission for the speed signal

The Computer(PCM) got the OSS signal, about 30,000ppm(pulses per mile) and then converted that to the 8,000ppm that the speedometer and cruise control needs, so in 2001 and up Rangers the speed signal came from the PCM

2001 Ranger won't have the speed conversion software in the ABS module

I think the simplest and easiest method would be to use a Dakota Digital SGI-100BT interface, about $115 now
It also allows for better calibration and tire size changes

Seen here: https://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=1192/mode=prod/prd1192.htm
Click on installation manual

You have already run the speed out wires, to PCM and cluster, so you just need the speed IN wires which can be accessed at the ABS module, the rear axle ABS sensor's 2 wires, pins 21 and 22 on 4WABS module
You may only need 1 wire, test the connector plugged in key off
Test OHMs to Ground, one should be 0 ohms and the other 1400 ohms or so, 0 ohms would be the ground of course so you should only need to tap the 1400 ohm wire to get the ABS rear axle sensor pulses

Ford uses the 8,000ppm AC signal so just 1 wire OUT, to PCM and speedo(and cruise), it only used the top(+) half of the AC sine wave for the pulses
Vehicle's ground completes the circuit

 

[Thedrill]

Hi RonD,
Thanks for the reply, I do not mind buying the Dakota digital 100BT interface, I still have the Mountaineer for parts if there is another way of doing it?
I read that someone connected pin 19 from the ABS to pin 32 on the C146 grey plug and got the speedo working.
Also someone said about linking pin 1 on the black plug on the cluster to the pin 8 of the gem...

Im not afraid of wiring or mechanical challenges.

 

[RonD]

Here is the wiring diagram for the 2001 Ranger 4WABS module

I don't have one for the 2000 Mountaineer

The Explorer/Mountaineer 4WABS modules could also be programmed for tire size, i.e. Rotations Per Mile, but not sure what device was used for that
In case calibration is off