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Many years ago I bought a propane adapter for my Coleman stove. I liked it and it was easy to use. I eventually went back to white gas because it used too much propane. I now go out for 2 week trips off-road and never have to fill up the white gas tank. I do fill it before trips and carry white gas with me just in case I run out but have not yet.
 


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Had a good weekend of shopping...



We were going to visit a friend in Lincoln and found a garage sale on the way. Since @fastpakr thinks my stove is too big I snatched up one of those little lunar lander looking super small/compact backpacking stoves. Yep, for $2



Made 5-97. They REALLY cheapened up the pump thing. I suppose it still works but I like the metal clip better than the plastic twist lock thing, I see the new ones are still like this. I don't know what I am going to do with it but for two bucks it looks like fun. I like how we have to have an arrow pointing to the pump...



And for a whopping $3 I snagged a user lantern that I don't have to worry about getting scratched. A 4-76 220J so it isn't a model I already have too. It is kind of sooted up, it might need some work.







Well that got me in the mood so I got to looking on facebook marketplace and found this:



2-85 288 CL2. They had kinda started going downhill then (although they got a lot cheaper made after this) but it was made the same year and month as my Ranger which is neat. And it might have been used once, it is like brand new. They were asking $20 but took $15.



Case is period too, I think January of '85.

 
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Lol - I didn't know I thought your stove was too big? Either way, good find. I'm partial to the MSR stuff but no complaints about a Coleman.
 

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You had mentioned weight. I referenced that tongue in cheek because I think for backpacking the 400B is still pretty big/bulky/heavy compared to newer skeletal backpacking stoves.
 

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I dont know how Coleman is still in business. Everyone on earth owns those stoves and lanterns but I don't think anyone has ever had to replace one...damn things are like tooth brushes, one lasts forever and just gets handed down from generation to generation. mine are both from the mid 70's and still work as good as new. I keep a stockpile of mantles and leather rings, the only parts that ever need to be replaced.

And that white gas can outlast the containers they put it in, literally! I picked up a old rusty can of it that was sitting on the ground in my shed for god knows how long. The bottom of the can fell off but the fuel was still plenty flammable.
 
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I don't think anyone has ever had to replace one...damn things are like tooth brushes, one lasts forever and just gets handed down from generation to generation.
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My dad was an outdoors man too, loved fishing, hunting, camping, boating, hiking, and traveling, just to name a few. I can't possibly count the times we got loaded up at the weekend, stuffed into the back of a station wagon on blankets and driven through the night halfway across the state(the Texas one) and woke up at daylight to the sound of lake swells on the bank and dad cranking up the Coleman stove, fishing all day, and going to sleep that night to a Coleman lantern slowly fading away.

Years later I was in TN on a new job, in a new town, and working on getting a place fixed up at night, even before getting the water and electricity turned on. After work I took off to the outskirts of town to a Walmart hoping to get rigged up with some lighting and such. Lo and behold, they had a huge package of Coleman flashlights, i think about 10 of them, and i bought the name, this was early to mid 90s.

After getting back across town again through some awful traffic and opening that particular package I was appalled at what I discovered, the most pathetic excuse of a product I had ever encountered. Coleman had sold their name for money to a Chinese firm, who had turned it into something of a scam. The money it had cost was not so important to me then, but the next evening after work i again took the long congested drive across town once more, this time to unload the poor excuse of a product back on the same store where it had came from, Walmart, which had also recently changed hands
 

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I dont know how Coleman is still in business. Everyone on earth owns those stoves and lanterns but I don't think anyone has ever had to replace one...damn things are like tooth brushes, one lasts forever and just gets handed down from generation to generation. mine are both from the mid 70's and still work as good as new. I keep a stockpile of mantles and leather rings, the only parts that ever need to be replaced.

And that white gas can outlast the containers they put it in, literally! I picked up a old rusty can of it that was sitting on the ground in my shed for god knows how long. The bottom of the can fell off but the fuel was still plenty flammable.
Agreed.

A lot of it is pretty cheap too which can't help either. I have accumulated two stoves and four lanterns so far. In reality I have yet to approach half the cost of a single new lantern.

After getting back across town again through some awful traffic and opening that particular package I was appalled at what I discovered, the most pathetic excuse of a product I had ever encountered. Coleman had sold their name for money to a Chinese firm, who had turned it into something of a scam. The money it had cost was not so important to me then, but the next evening after work i again took the long congested drive across town once more, this time to unload the poor excuse of a product back on the same store where it had came from, Walmart, which had also recently changed hands
Some of their side venture stuff is kinda on the cheap side. I have seen their flashlights but I haven't tried one.

They still make lanterns in the US though which is kinda cool:

 

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I still have a big red metal Coleman cooler from the 70's. The thing is indestructable. I don't think I've seen anything they've made in the last 20 years that I'd consider buying...
 

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Great scores!

I recently picked up another 220 lantern... a 220F, I think, needed a globe and a good cleaning but it works well now. Paid $7 for that one.

Also scored a Dual Fuel #533 stove for $10, a Peak-1 #576 stove for $20, and a really nice dual fuel lantern for $20. Best deal was the lantern as it came with a super cool clam shell case, about 10 packs of mantles, extra pumps, and some stove parts.

I sure like the old Coleman stuff better too. The newer stoves and lanterns I've had seem really cheap... and for what they go for new, they should be built like tanks. I especially do not like the new rubber pumps - junk! I guess that's why I have so much old, used equipment...
 

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Clam shell cases are cool, I have yet to sneak up on one of those.

I think you can change the rubber cups to leather ones? My 400B has a rubber one and it is weak.
 
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Well the two project ones both make fire anyway.

What is that hissing noise?



It was gusty but it was trying. Lots of yellow flame but it had no chance of heating the generator with the wind and no globe. It actually smelled like burning old gas, like unleaded kind of gas. Gonna put fresh fuel in it before the next run, it doesn't smell like normal gas in the fount though, so maybe it has turned.



Then I noticed like smoke coming out of the collar. I think it was actually fuel vapor but that could explain the crispiness around the collar. That was a mission kill, I turned it off after that.



Also got moist around the packing nut for the valve.



Ok, so that one is going to need the burner frame taken off and the lower plumbing checked out. The air tubes will be easy to check for obstructions at that point too.

Stove ran a little yellow, better on simmer than full blast. Stupid kitten wanted to play with it too. I think it needs taken apart and cleaned too.



Tried it again after the wind went down. Did the same but really pretty in the dark on simmer:

 

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About half of the stoves and lanterns I've gotten have had loose fittings. In some cases almost completely unscrewed like someone was messing with them before. Found quite a few leaks that way, right away. SOP for me now is to make sure everything's tight now before firing up a new piece.
 

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I should have done more, especially with the lantern.

Tore the stove down, nothing wrong with it. Going to clean the regulator and try it again in calmer wind conditions.
 

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You know what's really fun... fill one of those stoves with gasoline instead of naphtha.

Nice orange ball of fire and gasoline everywhere. Ahhhhhh good times.
 

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