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is it a hat or a sled?


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Is a toboggan a sled or a hat?

Both derive from French tabaganne, which derives from an Algonquian word, probably Mi'kmaq tepaqan or Abenaki dabôgan, influenced by similar words in other Eastern Canadian Algonquian languages. The sense of "hat" is recorded since 1929 and is short for toboggan cap (1928), a cap suitable for wearing while tobogganing.
This is the most logical answer as to how a hat got the name of a sled:headbang::icon_hornsup:
 


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So, no-one down yonder calls that a toque?
No, but it sounds similar to what you do if somebody passes the the Devils Cabbage:icon_twisted:lol
 
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When I Googled toqué, I didn't see any images with the fold, more like a sock hat or beanie. A toboggan has the fold so it's doubled over the forehead, but I am not in Canada, so what do I know. You would definitely have expertise in this over a Floridan..
It depends on how long they are. I have more than one of them. Some are long enough that I can fold the bottom up to add another layer over my ears, some aren't.
 

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I cant believe I'm the only person in this whole forum that calls it (the hat) a tobboggan:icon_confused:
You're not. It is a common term in some places. My grandma used to call it that. But when I was a kid I had a wooden toboggan like the one above and I was too stubborn, OCD or otherwise mentally weird to adopt that term for a hat.

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You're not. It is a common term in some places. My grandma used to call it that. But when I was a kid I had a wooden toboggan like the one above and I was too stubborn, OCD or otherwise mentally weird to adopt that term for a hat.

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Same here - I've definitely heard people in this area use the term for winter hats, but because I grew up associating it with a sled design, I never absorbed it into my own usage.
 

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I cant believe I'm the only person in this whole forum that calls it (the hat) a tobboggan:icon_confused:
I can. As you have been quick to point out in the past you are apparently the only person on this forum to want or do a lot of things.
 

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I can. As you have been quick to point out in the past you are apparently the only person on this forum to want or do a lot of things.
Touché
 

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Interesting topic. Never heard that style hat called a toboggan.

In our neck of the woods they're called sippo caps.
 

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Interesting topic. Never heard that style hat called a toboggan.

In our neck of the woods they're called sippo caps.
I believe it is a southern thing:icon_thumby:. we wear our toboggans and northerners ride toboggans. :icon_hornsup:
 

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In French Canadian language, both hats shown above are called "tuques", length color or pom-pom ( that's what we call the ball on top) doesn't change the name we use for them...

French Canadian French is not the "international French" and has lots of variants from one region to the other. The slang we speak is so different from the French from France, they have a real hard time to understand when we speak.

Lots of words are derived from English words and we communly use lots of English



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