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Rear Springs and Soft Rear Brakes


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I just got new front rotors/brakes and had the rear (relatively new) brakes adjusted in May. Yesterday, everything went mushy and I couldn't brake for a stop sign in my 94 Mazda B-3000. Guys who do classic cars next to where I work fixed them so good it almost made me cry. But they said the reason the rear brakes were, like, non-existent had to do with the springs, and that I need spring adjustment...something-or-other repair kits, so that the springs don't wreck the brakes again.

Like I have to tell you I'm female and they could be talking a foreign language. They are all grim about my truck, even though I get regular everything in terms of maintenance. They said the shocks are gone, the springs need to be replaced, etc. But I'm hoping since these are classic cars guys who do cars so beautiful even guys would cry, they're overemphasizing the bad points of my truck. Anyway, I'd appreciate knowing how faulty rear springs could totally destroy my rear brakes. Thanks.
 


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your leaf springs can't ruin the rear brakes. did they take off the drums and look at the brakes?

it sounds more like the power booster lost vacuum.

BTW this should be in the brakes section
 

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maybe they mean the springs in the drums
 

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your leaf springs can't ruin the rear brakes. did they take off the drums and look at the brakes?

it sounds more like the power booster lost vacuum.

BTW this should be in the brakes section
Okay, I will move the thread, but I don't know how.:icon_confused:

Yeah, the leaf springs ruining my brakes thing didn't make sense to me. These guys are about as solid as you could find, and they do all kinds of stuff for me and the other women at my job for free that other guys would never consider, so I think it's more a matter of terminology. He explained it that something (don't know what) was continually...unravelling? loosening?...on the springs, and yes, he and another guy took off the drums. Like I said, the brakes now feel the way they should have felt when I paid $280 for them. Anyway, I could Google "power booster," but I think I'd probably end up with ads for cartoon figures or maybe even Viagra:icon_twisted:. So if you could tell me what a power booster is and if it could be a "spring adjustment kit" (remember, he was translating for a female), I would be really appreciative. Thanks!
 

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With drum brakes there are spring holding the brake shoes on.
If they break of even wear out, maybe jam up, they can hold the brakes in a tension position and drag the shoes and in turn wear them out, MAYBE...

BUT that has to be the springs they were talking about.

ltr,
 

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the springs must be the springs in the drum, and the adjuster they are talking about is probally the adjuster at the bottom of the brakes that keeps tension on the brakes, if it is locked up the brakes will come out of adjustment overtime and could give you a soft pedal.
 

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the springs must be the springs in the drum, and the adjuster they are talking about is probally the adjuster at the bottom of the brakes that keeps tension on the brakes, if it is locked up the brakes will come out of adjustment overtime and could give you a soft pedal.
Thanks all you guys. It helps if you just understand a little bit, and now I do. Also, could you answer this one. The really good classic car guy (he just did a 65 Mustang original pea green, way cool) does plasma welding and said he'd plasma weld my totally rusted out wheel arches for $650, and he is sort of an artist and got a little hurt when I said I couldn't afford plasma welding and would order wheel arches from Whitney's.:annoyed: He said What am I going to rivet them onto if there's nothing there, but does it matter if there's nothing underneath the wheel arches (I mean at a 90-degree angle to the rusted out area right over the tires), as long as there's no rust visible to the naked eye? Like if you don't bend over and look under the replacement arches? Thanks!
 

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Personally I wouldn't go spending a whole bunch of money on a 15 year old truck that's starting to rust out, so I'd leave the wheel arches alone and drive 'er until she won't drive anymore.
 

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Personally I wouldn't go spending a whole bunch of money on a 15 year old truck that's starting to rust out, so I'd leave the wheel arches alone and drive 'er until she won't drive anymore.
Yeah, I know this is true. I have four months left, and boy, am I gonna miss this truck. I will cry like a baby when I sell it. But I posted because I figured those springs I asked about would keep me from possibly hurting other motorists as well as myself. I often wonder to myself if any other Ranger owners keep their old trucks on their property like a Hummel or nicknack, just 'cause you don't want to part with it.

Well, thanks everybody. I wish someone would write a long article on when to know your truck is past saving, and then listserv it to everyone on TRS.
 

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i think about half the people on TRS have trucks that are "past saving" by logic but we all like our POS's too much to part with so we just keep fixing them!
 

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i think about half the people on TRS have trucks that are "past saving" by logic but we all like our POS's too much to part with so we just keep fixing them!
I'd really appreciate hearing from you guys about if the truck under the hood has been maintained A+ (everything they tell you to do, you did), but the wheel arches and undercarriage are UGGly,;missingteeth; what would be a reasonable price to ask for the truck? Ever since the guys fixed the rear brakes, and now that they're going to put in those drum-springs, the truck rides really well. Thanks again!
 

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PA trucks rust worse than other places.

A good running well maintained truck is worth a grand anywhere.

I've got a sizable chunk of money in my 88 Ranger GT Turbo, but it's one of a kind.

It needs lots of body work and paint, but I'm not that guy.
 

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Personally I wouldn't go spending a whole bunch of money on a 15 year old truck that's starting to rust out, so I'd leave the wheel arches alone and drive 'er until she won't drive anymore.



you must not love your truck as much as i do. im planning on saving my 15 year old truck
 

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No, I can't really say that I love my truck so much that I would spend a whole bunch of money on it after it was rusted out and used up. Then it's time to get something different that's in better shape.
 

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