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As does singing the praises of the watered down tissue paper trucks they build nowadays.
Looking at the world with a positive outlook is rarely a bad thing.

This doesn't have to be an "us vs them" thing folks.

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Is there -anything- that you can do with your old truck that can't be done with a comparable truck straight off the lot today?
I can poke my finger thru rust holes in the bed...

I do like not having a full length center console. I can dodge that with an F-150 but not with the new Ranger. (that and console only shifter are my only big gripes)

For size/maneuverability you would have to get into side by sides to compete. A midsize is a lot bigger truck. People want bigger, bigger is easier to make safer, more stable, more comfortable... I get it.

I do want a new Ranger, Supercrew STX FX4 in the flavor of Saber... but it won't fill the same niche as my '85 so '85 vs '19 isn't much of an issue.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:21 PM   #42
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Interesting re: the console. Going to a full size console is one of my projects for the '99.

The maneuverability of a small truck is appealing. Just going from my regular cab '94 to the extended cab '99 was noticeable. I'm sure one of the new supercrews will be a similar level of change. The old Bronco II was spectacular in tight quarters.
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Interesting re: the console. Going to a full size console is one of my projects for the '99.

The maneuverability of a small truck is appealing. Just going from my regular cab '94 to the extended cab '99 was noticeable. I'm sure one of the new supercrews will be a similar level of change. The old Bronco II was spectacular in tight quarters.
They ALWAYS seem to hit me right in the kneecap, drives me nuts.

At least with the wife's Edge I can telescope the steering wheel and slide the seat clear back to get away from it. I suspect the new Ranger will be similar. Otherwise it is about a guarantee if I can't telescope the wheel it is console meet kneecap. In my Ranger or F-150 I just sit there and nothing puts my legs into a bind (and I don't have to wonder how strong the dash is vs my femur if I get into a wreck)

And I don't have anywhere nice to put my CB radio like I do in my F-150.

Coming from an F-150 (although an older one) I am sure even a screw will handle like a gocart compared to what I am used to.
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Is there -anything- that you can do with your old truck that can't be done with a comparable truck straight off the lot today?
Bounce thru a ditch without ripping a fascia off.
Kick the rear sideways
work on it
hit a deer and not have it totalled
Unlock it with a key...

The only real advatage modern trucks have is towing on the expressway. Thats what state routes are for.
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Bounce thru a ditch without ripping a fascia off.
Kick the rear sideways
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hit a deer and not have it totalled
Unlock it with a key...

The only real advatage modern trucks have is towing on the expressway. Thats what state routes are for.
16 years ago my truck was totaled for 12 hail dings in the hood. I doubt the passage of time has increased its odds in a deer encounter.

"real trucks don't have facias" The North American Ranger has a steel bumpers as the Ranger always have had.

TC can be turned off.

Pretty much everything still has a cylinder in the door.
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16 years ago my truck was totaled for 12 hail dings in the hood. I doubt the passage of time has increased its odds in a deer encounter.

"real trucks don't have facias" The North American Ranger has a steel bumpers as the Ranger always have had.

TC can be turned off.

Pretty much everything still has a cylinder in the door.
I guess totalled wasnt the right term, i supposed "smashed into oblivion" would be more suiting.


They still sit low enough and have enough plasttic in vital areas to be suspectiable to damage.

Trac control can be shut off, stability control cannot. So your wheels can spin as long as the truck stays straight

I was pretty sure 2016 and newer 150s didnt have a key cylinder in the door, i could be mistaken.
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I guess totalled wasnt the right term, i supposed "smashed into oblivion" would be more suiting.
Crumple zones are a good thing, trucks still hit deer and it is still usually the grille, headlights and fenders that take the beating the same as they always have.

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They still sit low enough and have enough plasttic in vital areas to be suspectiable to damage.
They have a plastic airdam below the steel bumper like every Ranger before them. They sit as high or higher than any previous Ranger.



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I was pretty sure 2016 and newer 150s didnt have a key cylinder in the door, i could be mistaken.
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I have been basing what ive been saying based on F150s, i have not seen a new ranger yet for comparision.

That being said, check this out....mainly the tow ratings. I couldnt find the EB, but it seems the lofty numbers ford advertises as tow ratings are actually GCWR, not true tow cap, according to this your yuppie standard 5.0L king ranch crew cab 150 can muster a max trailer weight of 7000lbs. Thats funny considering thats right around what my 96 F150 with a 145hp 300inline and a E4OD was rated for.

https://www.caranddriver.com/ford/f-...specifications
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Cause your old one was heavier.
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Cause your old one was heavier.
Doubt it.IIRC that article said the curb weight of the king ranch 4dr was 4850.

According to google a 96 with a 302 (mine had a 300, but that difference is null) weighs 4305.

The new one is 4894, just double checked. With a GVWR of 7050 lbs.

My 96 had a GVWR of 6400 IIRC.

That means my 96 had an effective capacity of 2095
The new one has an effective capacity of 2160.

Absolutly meaningless difference.
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