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Old 01-23-2019, 12:29 PM   #11
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I know I make fun of FWD a lot, but I kinda like it. Also, you better believe that if a VW Rabbit pickup fell into my lap I'd drive the crap outta that thing.
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Old 01-23-2019, 12:44 PM   #12
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And it's probably closer to my price range honestly.
Same but I don't really like it.

I like the new Ranger, I just as soon keep what I have as this though.
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I am a huge fan of the front wheel drive trucks from the 80s absolutely love my Dodge Ram pages but the problem they had were they were all only two-seaters with the exception of those weird seats in the back of the Subaru Brat.

I can fit a full-size 4 wheel drive ATV in the back of my Dodge Ram page and I can haul it down the highway and still managed over 30 miles to the gallon. But I cannot put me my wife and my two kids in it if Ford makes a 4 seat front wheel drive car bass pickup with a true bed like the Dodge Rampage I would be all over it. Bed needs to be a minimum of 5 feet long and 4 feet wide at the tailgate opening that way you can shove a four wheeler in the back of it what's the rear tire sitting on the tailgate and keep the wheelbase reasonable

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Atleast those were 4wd. This is more rampageish.

No thanks. Stop watering down the truck market.
Not everybody needs a full size truck with s*** mileage some people need hey truck that can hold 500 pounds in the bed and still get good enough mileage to daily commute long distances like the VW pickup the Rampage and hopefully this new Ford if they do it correctly it's a Ford Transit Connect how to pick up bed instead of a van body I would have already bought one

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Not everybody needs a full size truck with s*** mileage some people need hey truck that can hold 500 pounds in the bed and still get good enough mileage to daily commute long distances like the VW pickup the Rampage and hopefully this new Ford if they do it correctly it's a Ford Transit Connect how to pick up bed instead of a van body I would have already bought one

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Exactly. If you run a business and need a fleet of 10 vehicles to haul car parts around you dont want to spend 40 grand on each truck because its turbo charged with 4 wheel drive, locking diffs, ass warmers, leather interior and built in wifi. You need cheap reliable trucks with a bed and a steering wheel, AM radio if you want to get really fancy.

The cheapest "trucks" made today are still grossly overloaded with standard features that jack the cost up and make them unrealistic for commercial delivery use.

My local parts warehouse all switched to using ford feistas as delivery vehicles because trucks are just too expensive. If you order and engine or transmission from them they have someone else deliver it. I think as long as they keep the courier bare bones and cheap itll be a big seller for people who put company logos on their vehicles...

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Exactly. If you run a business and need a fleet of 10 vehicles to haul car parts around you dont want to spend 40 grand on each truck because its turbo charged with 4 wheel drive, locking diffs, ass warmers, leather interior and built in wifi. You need cheap reliable trucks with a bed and a steering wheel, AM radio if you want to get really fancy.
I think that is why they still make XL's.
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I think that is why they still make XL's.
But the 2019 xls are a far cry from a 2011 xl. And cost about 15k more... even with 8 years of inflation thats nuts.
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But the 2019 xls are a far cry from a 2011 xl. And cost about 15k more...
2011's sold for $11k new?

The Focus that this new "Courier" is based on isn't much cheaper than than a XL Ranger.

I am not trying to knock this thing, I can see its market. I don't know if it will be substantially cheaper than a Ranger though.
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2011's sold for $11k new?

The Focus that this new "Courier" is based on isn't much if any cheaper than than a XL Ranger.

I am not trying to knock this thing, I can see its market. I don't know if it will be substantially cheaper than a Ranger though.
My 09 xl fleet was 12k new. I could have bought it for around 10 if I was buying more than one lol. I dont know what they plan on pricing these things at so yea if they try selling them for 25k+ you have a point and itll be a bust because why not just get a ranger at that point. but if they try selling them like the original xl fleet trucks even under 20k with no feature options the market will be there.

The 2017 fiestas my warehouse is using were bought for around 12k each (obviously apples and oranges) but how much more can a base model focus cost? Drop more features (the base fiestas still have media and phone sync stuff and alot of other nonsense uneeded in a fleet vehicle which could all be ditched in the courier) and save more money.

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