Chevy must be doing it wrong

Ranger850 · Jan 23, 2019

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a25953794/chevrolet-silverado-four-cylinder-fuel-economy-test/

V8 get better mpg than the 2.7 i4 turbo

adsm08 · Jan 23, 2019

Well, it is Chevy, doing things the wrongest way possible is kind of what they are known for.

CraftsmanQuad19 · Jan 23, 2019

I prefer Chevy to dodge

...love my impalas

adsm08 · Jan 23, 2019

CraftsmanQuad19 said:
I prefer Chevy to dodge

...love my impalas

I prefer Sketchers to Dodge. At least then I know how far I'll be walking.

ericbphoto · Jan 23, 2019

adsm08 said:
I prefer Sketchers to Dodge. At least then I know how far I'll be walking.

I will be using that quote at work in the future.

This message composed solely of recycled electrons. Go green!

85_Ranger4x4 · Jan 23, 2019

Its EPA rating is the same as the V8... so why mess with it in the first place?

adsm08 · Jan 23, 2019

85_Ranger4x4 said:
Its EPA rating is the same as the V8... so why mess with it in the first place?

Because most Americans and overly emotional, underly intellectual idiots who do what makes them feel like they are doing good even if the facts of the situation say they are moving in the opposite of their intended goal.

I honestly believe that I could set the average American down in the woods, near a mountain, point them away from it, have them walk in that direction for an hour, then show them the mountain through a telescope and convince them they are getting closer because it looks bigger.

Ranger850 · Jan 23, 2019

I think Chevy is just flowing the TREND of turbo 4 bangers in oversized trucks, even if they shoot themselves in the foot. As in a response to Ford having one, now they can offer the same type of power plant. Keeping up with the Jones' as they say.

85_Ranger4x4 · Jan 23, 2019

adsm08 said:
Because most Americans and overly emotional, underly intellectual idiots who do what makes them feel like they are doing good even if the facts of the situation say they are moving in the opposite of their intended goal.

A lot of fullsize truck buyers are going to balk because it is a 4cyl to start with.

Ranger850 said:
I think Chevy is just flowing the TREND of turbo 4 bangers in oversized trucks, even if they shoot themselves in the foot. As in a response to Ford having one, now they can offer the same type of power plant. Keeping up with the Jones' as they say.

Aside from the fact that the Ford 2.7 actually gets better mpg than most other options.

CraftsmanQuad19 · Jan 23, 2019

But a 2.7 is a baby v6 not a 4 banger

adsm08 · Jan 23, 2019

85_Ranger4x4 said:
A lot of fullsize truck buyers are going to balk because it is a 4cyl to start with.

Not the ones that buy them as a status symbol instead of a tool.

I once talked to an old salesman who told me back in the 90s he sold a lot of 300-6 F-150s to people who though the 6-cylinder would do better on gas because it was "smaller". Then they came back upset that they were getting less than the 5.0 was rated at.

He started steering MPG minded people to the 5.0 instead of the 4.9.

Inch for inch an engine with fewer cylinders still has to work harder to move the same load.

85_Ranger4x4 · Jan 23, 2019

adsm08 said:
Not the ones that buy them as a status symbol instead of a tool.

I once talked to an old salesman who told me back in the 90s he sold a lot of 300-6 F-150s to people who though the 6-cylinder would do better on gas because it was "smaller". Then they came back upset that they were getting less than the 5.0 was rated at.

He started steering MPG minded people to the 5.0 instead of the 4.9.

Inch for inch an engine with fewer cylinders still has to work harder to move the same load.

Back then I think all of them got about the same in the mid teens. Might as well go big if 14mpg is all that is on the table.

8thTon · Jan 23, 2019

On the other hand, a steady state 75mph test is a single operating point, and not much in the way of a realistic test unless that's all you do. This is why there are different test cycles - clearly the turbo four does better on the EPA combined cycle. Pick the engine that best matches what you plan to do with it.

ryan · Jan 23, 2019

8thTon said:
On the other hand, a steady state 75mph test is a single operating point, and not much in the way of a realistic test unless that's all you do. This is why there are different test cycles - clearly the turbo four does better on the EPA combined cycle. Pick the engine that best matches what you plan to do with it.

Yeah the test they use isn't really going to highlight the differences between them. That v8 is probably running on fewer cylinders in that test anyway.

19Walt93 · Jan 23, 2019

Chevy built the Corvair, the Chevette, and the Vega, if the 4 cylinder truck gets you home they probably consider that a win even if it gets lousy mileage.
I disagree about the 300 getting less MPG than a 302, the key was gearing the 300 high because it was a low rev engine. I had an 89 F150 4x4 with a 300, T18, and 3.08 gears that got better mileage than the 04 Ranger 4.0, 5 spd, 4x4 and compared to a 300 the 4.0 SOHC has no low end torque.

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