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Old 09-02-2010, 09:18 AM   #21
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Hey, since he's comin from Florida, and headin out west, he can pick up the banner and just pack it that way. JK

I had forgot about braking. Since ur talking bout that far of a trip, I hope ur 2.9 is in top condition and that u have a 4.0 radiator in it. That engine will get hot on that long of a trip.

Not saying it can't be done. Just plan ur route where other TRS members are so if u need something we are available. lol
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:58 AM   #22
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Hey, since he's comin from Florida, and headin out west, he can pick up the banner and just pack it that way. JK

I had forgot about braking. Since ur talking bout that far of a trip, I hope ur 2.9 is in top condition and that u have a 4.0 radiator in it. That engine will get hot on that long of a trip.

Not saying it can't be done. Just plan ur route where other TRS members are so if u need something we are available. lol


LOL, I hear ya man. Luckily my 2.9 has the late model heads on it. Have Never had a overheating problem, Ever and I've owned the truck about 10 years now and probably put about 60k m iles on it. Not sure if it has a 4.0 liter radiator or not, probably not But it's never overheated.
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:26 PM   #23
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I checked my manual and it shows a payload weight of 1300 lbs and a GVWR weight of 4650lbs for my truck. I'm not 100% sure what that means. Can I tow a trailer that weight OR is that the combined weight of the truck including everything in it and on it And included the total weight of the towed item. If so, figure the truck weighs a ton , ton and 1/2, plus people, gas, gear, dont leave much room left over to tow anything it seems.


Can someone explain that to me and also the advantages / disadvantages of convential trailer verses 5th wheel.

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The GVWR is the total weight of everything, truck, trailer, gas, passengers, beer cans in the bed etc. You're right, that doesn't leave a lot of room. I wonder if the factory rating is on the high or low end of things though. On one hand, they might like to go high, so it seems that the truck is mighty, on the other hand, they might go low so there's some safety factor for everything.
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LOL, I hear ya man. Luckily my 2.9 has the late model heads on it. Have Never had a overheating problem, Ever and I've owned the truck about 10 years now and probably put about 60k m iles on it. Not sure if it has a 4.0 liter radiator or not, probably not But it's never overheated.
you should get the radiator from a... i think 93 or 92 ranger with the 4.0/automatic.

that was, when i got one, a three core radiator, good stuff.
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The GVWR is the total weight of everything, truck, trailer, gas, passengers, beer cans in the bed etc. You're right, that doesn't leave a lot of room. I wonder if the factory rating is on the high or low end of things though. On one hand, they might like to go high, so it seems that the truck is mighty, on the other hand, they might go low so there's some safety factor for everything.
No. GVWR is the total vertical load on both axles. GCWR is the trailer + truck.

The trailer needs to do its own braking. Any trailer in consideration will have brakes on each axle. The truck need the controller installed to actuate them. Brakes are not a consideration on the tow vehicle. However, trailer brakes need more service than vehicle brakes. Most don't auto adjust. The magnets wear rapidly if you use them a lot. The way they work is that the brake controller energizes an electro magnet that grabs at the inside of the drum. The drum pulls the magnet, which is attached to the brakes in such a way that it spreads the shoes out and presses them into the drums. Drum brakes are bad--like little ovens--and they fade quickly, and the magnets tear up the inside of the drum which reduces the surface area of the contact. there is quickly a lot less pull on the shoes. And the shoes wear and don't engage as readily because the brakes don't self adjust. Most trailer brakes are faulty due to neglegence so don't buy a trailer of any age and think the brakes are fine just because they are there. The brakes should lock and skid at max power.
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No. GVWR is the total vertical load on both axles. GCWR is the trailer + truck.

The trailer needs to do its own braking. Any trailer in consideration will have brakes on each axle. The truck need the controller installed to actuate them. Brakes are not a consideration on the tow vehicle. However, trailer brakes need more service than vehicle brakes. Most don't auto adjust. The magnets wear rapidly if you use them a lot. The way they work is that the brake controller energizes an electro magnet that grabs at the inside of the drum. The drum pulls the magnet, which is attached to the brakes in such a way that it spreads the shoes out and presses them into the drums. Drum brakes are bad--like little ovens--and they fade quickly, and the magnets tear up the inside of the drum which reduces the surface area of the contact. there is quickly a lot less pull on the shoes. And the shoes wear and don't engage as readily because the brakes don't self adjust. Most trailer brakes are faulty due to neglegence so don't buy a trailer of any age and think the brakes are fine just because they are there. The brakes should lock and skid at max power.

or, if you're smart, you'll run an electro-hydraulic system, they operate from a standard electrical brake controller, the complicated part is all trailer side.
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That is not Ranger tow-able...you would want a 1/2 ton truck at minimum for something that size.
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No. GVWR is the total vertical load on both axles. GCWR is the trailer + truck.
My bad. You sir are quite corrrect.
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