The 2019 Ford Ranger is yesterdays F-150

bobbywalter · Oct 23, 2018

jeeeeeeepppppp

well...its nothing but problems here at work...so i needed to be here..

but i was bummed. i wanted to go tour building 4 with you guys.

fastpakr · Oct 23, 2018

We didn't get to go into any of the buildings. Just some speeches, the driving loop (very mild except for the side slope and getting to see the locker handle a wheel in the air) and getting up close to all the different truck configurations.

Still an awesome opportunity and very grateful for it. Ford did a great job with hosting (again) and we made another good contact in their PR/marketing team.

bobbywalter · Oct 23, 2018

...down in dearborn.

its interesting there.

Ranger850 · Oct 23, 2018

fastpakr said:
If Ford doesn't want to give us the details, I'm not above crawling around to find out.

Maybe it'd beneath them. :icon_rofl:

sgtsandman · Oct 23, 2018

Ford says both front and rear axles are Dana AvanTEK. They didn't say what model or anything.

So, maybe this one for the front? http://www.dana.com/light-vehicles/products/driveline/axles/high-efficiency-advantek

And this Dana AvanTEK 44 for the rear? https://spicerparts.com/parts/axle/automotive/advantek-axles

adsm08 · Oct 23, 2018

Jim Oaks said:
Fastpakr was the only one at the event crawling under it to look. We were getting some weird looks.

This is really the first new model Ford has released in six years, first new pickup in almost 10, first new 1/4 ton pickup in over 20. You guys should have been giving weird looks to the people who weren't crawling under them to look underneath.

bobbywalter · Oct 23, 2018

adsm08 said:
This is really the first new model Ford has released in six years, first new pickup in almost 10, first new 1/4 ton pickup in over 20. You guys should have been giving weird looks to the people who weren't crawling under them to look underneath.

Ozwynn · Oct 23, 2018

Shran said:
I dunno man, my old '85 F250 weighed in at 6300... and it was a 4x4, extended cab long box with a 460. My '07 F250 is around 7800. It's been a while since my '86 half ton has been on a scale so I don't have an exact number but I'm guessing it's somewhere around 4500. Best information I can find about the new Ranger puts them just a hair over 6000.

if this helps, I just went to the dump yesterday and my '90 F150 2wd std cab long bed with a V8 and 5 speed and dual tanks, reat tank full, front tank empty me in the cab (200 pounds) tipped the scale unloaded at 4,5xx pounds and it sits mostly the way it did on the lot.

Stic-o · Oct 27, 2018

I've been trying to figure out the axles myself. I noticed none of the SEMA builds changed gears. Maybe because there are none yet. But the felt comfortable enough to go from a 30" to a 35" tire.

Also does anyone know the bolt pattern of the wheels? Same as 150? 6x135?

Ranger850 · Oct 27, 2018

A lot of the SEMA stuff is just for show, so no real need to change the gears.

sgtsandman · Oct 27, 2018

Stic-o said:
I've been trying to figure out the axles myself. I noticed none of the SEMA builds changed gears. Maybe because there are none yet. But the felt comfortable enough to go from a 30" to a 35" tire.

Also does anyone know the bolt pattern of the wheels? Same as 150? 6x135?

According to what I’ve seen, the bolt pattern is 6X5.5, which I think is 139.7 in mm.

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rusty ol ranger · Oct 27, 2018

Jim Oaks said:
We've all noticed that the horsepower and towing capabilities of pick-ups seems to increase all the time.

With the recent release of the 2019 Ford Ranger Specs;

https://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178562

I decided to see how they compare to a Ford F-150 produced around the time the Ford Ranger was first introduced.

2019 Ford Ranger Specs:

270 HP & 310 LB FT Torque
7,500 LB Towing Capacity
1,860 LBS Payload Capacity
Unknown MPG - Likely over 20 MPG

1986 Ford F-150 Specs:

185 HP & 270 LB FT Torque
7,500 LB Towing Capacity
1,500 Payload
12 MPG / 17 MPG

As you can see, the 2019 Ford Ranger actually has more horsepower and hauling capacity than the 1980's F-150 had. It's definitely going to get better MPG. Yet, people complain because the new Ranger ONLY has 270 horsepower.

So now that the Ranger has become the old F-150, what's next?

Well, there has been talk about a small pickup based off of the Ford Focus.

On paper yes.

Real world? Doubtful.

#1 That tiny little box on the new ranger cant even fit 1800lbs worth of stuff. A 8ft box F150 could eaisly swallow its "rated" capacity plus more. Not to mention most new trucks generally seem to be rated closer to true capacity instead of grossly underated like the old trucks.

2- 7500lbs is going to be much more stable behind a wider, longer, bullnose 150 then behind a narrower, shorter, ranger. Not to mention the fact (assuming we go for max everything here) that bulls 351W H.O is going to eaisly outsnort a turboed 4 banger in the Revs trucks are normally in. I dont know why everything has to have such a ridiculious powerband. Assuming because the higher the RPMs, the more HP you can claim, and the better it looks in advertisements.

3- With the exception of the 80-82 100/150 swiss cheese frame trucks, the chassis on any older 1/2 ton is going to be much more suited to day in/day out rigors of hauling a 7500lb trailer. Not to mention the difference in utter strength between a C6 and whatever the new ranger has, the difference between a 9in rear and whatever is in the new truck, and the Ibeam vs coil over.

So yes, on paper. But i highly doubt 30 years from now many 2019 rangers will still be around earning their keep like i see quite a few bulls still doing.

New isnt always better.

sgtsandman · Oct 27, 2018

If loading stone, bricks, or other dense material, you could probably hit the max load weight.

I agree, new isn’t always better though.

From what reviews I’ve seen in ecoboosted trucks in general, you are either in eco or in boost. No in between or partially one or the other. I do have my doubts about the powerplant vs the old engines in the original Rangers but time will tell.

Then there is the “just because you can doesn’t mean you should” department. Like the towing. The Ranger isn’t the only vehicle that can tow more than it really should. I’ve seen plenty of 1/2 tons hooked up to trailers that probably weren’t the best idea.

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pjtoledo · Oct 27, 2018

how many trucks did you crawl under? the pics are of 2 different axles. were they both 4wd? its hard to tell, but the second one doesn't appear to have a transfer case.

fastpakr · Oct 27, 2018

pjtoledo said:
how many trucks did you crawl under? the pics are of 2 different axles. were they both 4wd? its hard to tell, but the second one doesn't appear to have a transfer case.

I think (but can't swear) that both the rear axles I photographed were on 2wd trucks.

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