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Old 04-15-2012, 01:23 PM   #31
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Not to derail this yet agian but that torchmate build was super bad ASS.

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #32
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No they didn't some f250s had D50s with leaf springs. There was never a leaf sprund D44 TTB.
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...M_numbers.html

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:27 PM   #33
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Those are coil sprung. The D50 is the only leaf sprung TTB thanks for trying though. If you read my post again I never said they didn't put 8 lug D44 TTB's in F250's I said there were no LEAF sprung D44 TTB's.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:50 PM   #34
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dang... so much for helping out the OP here.

to the OP. xj coils. 5" xj coils as listed above. the steering kit you should look at is the superrunner steering kit for RBV's. you can also modify it to accept 1 ton TRE's if needed. longer radius arms w/ flex joints on the end (this one is debatable, some say that flex joints are not needed)...

to the sas or ttb thing.. agree to disagree.. pure and simple, some people you won't convince things. you don't have to come across as such a jerk tho... i've seen several threads where you come across as just a cocky jerk, easy way to make people not like you... not that you probably care lol. just agree to disagree. some people think sas is the only answer
i was once gonna go to the dark side of sas... but decided i can make the ttb FLEX as much as i want it to. it'd do everything i want my b2 to do... now if i could just get around to installing my d35 ttb.
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Oddly enough I love TTB trucks... Ford's little bastard child. My only thing is flex isn't wheel travel. Those trucks can do ton's of shit my old SLA couldn't dream of. That is why I went SFA. I personally see no reason for SAS'ing a TTB short of 37" tires or true blue rock crawling. Which is were flex comes into play. There is a reason you don't see pro rock crawlers repping up D50 TTB's converted to coil overs and what not. Strong as they are they still don't behave like a SFA. They get wonky on rocks (and in high speed corners).

Want a shit ton of travel out of a TTB? Go to light weight XJ coils. They compress great under Ranger's even the SAS'd ones. On top of that get a good set of long travel shocks and extended radius arms I would do flex joints on the frame end but thats me.

Will it act just like a SFA? NOPE. Will it act a million times better than the stock TTB? YEP. Will it accomplish what 90% of the members of this forum need? YEP.

And if anyone is curious big chunk of my assholyness stems from popping major pain killers for recent surgery on a previously shattered wrist and ****ed up back. Not an excuse just an FYI.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:25 PM   #36
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My only thing is flex isn't wheel travel.
I just read a majority of this thread and im sorry I cant let this go, you keep arguing this point and that is your opinion. Fact is yes it is the same thing. As Junkie said, wheel travel, articulation, flex, its not referring to the forces and or axle mounting geometry, its talking about how much the tire moves up and down. Simple as I can put it.
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Shhhh! Don't say that or sir flexalot will be angry. On a serious note this one has been beaten. The guy thinks he's right, majority of us don't, that's as far as this will ever go.

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I've also gone with the thinking of staying TTB and getting as much usable suspension travel as I could..

I'm using the Duff 3.5" springs up front with f-150 spring seats under them. My droop limiting factor is the springs are too short. However, if I let the axle drop more (remove the spring) my next limiting factor is the body of the shock actually hits the side of the Radius arm. My up travel is limited by the fender and airbox. I hit those right about the time I bottom out the shock.

I'm also already getting to the limit of the steering parts (hard to turn when fully flexed) and the axle shaft does rub just a hair at full travel (yes, I've opened the hole).

One item that is really lacking in the TTB setup is ground pressure on the drooping tire. With TTB if your near max flex the ground pressure you have is only from the weight of the tire/wheel/axle etc. With a Solid front axle as one side is pushed up the other side is pushed down so you get some extra ground pressure.

Even with that, I like having TTB..


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Old 06-01-2012, 05:02 PM   #39
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There is nothing I disagree with in the above post. He hits all of the points I was trying to make but explains them better.
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