'07-'11 Rangers due to be recalled

[Bgunner]

2007 thru 2011 Ford Rangers to be recalled for there airbag propelent, ammonium nitrate, breaking down and causing hazardous situations.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/industrials/feds-reject-ford-and-mazda-request-on-air-bag-recalls.amp

 

[Dirtman]

You been asleep for the past 10 years?

 

[fastpakr]

You been asleep for the past 10 years?

Sounds like this might be an expansion of the existing Takata trainwreck.

 

[Dirtman]

How are they still expanding it? They've known what the problem was for years, and they knew what vehicles got the faulty inflaters. How are recalls still being added to a problem from more than a decade ago? They fixed my truck in 2017.

 

[97RangerXLT]

How are they still expanding it? They've known what the problem was for years, and they knew what vehicles got the faulty inflaters. How are recalls still being added to a problem from more than a decade ago? They fixed my truck in 2017.

controlled bleed.

dump it all on Takata at once and it can kill the company with no one else to quickly step in to start cranking out replacements. Consumers then get nervous about their car's dash possibly exploding in their face and no one to fix it.

dump some here and there, and it allows other companies to step in to help with manufacture and gives Takata some room to fix their crap.


AJ

 

[Dirtman]

But Takata is gone anyway. They went belly up in 2017.

 

[97RangerXLT]

But Takata is gone anyway. They went belly up in 2017.

see the point on allowing other businesses to step in and gracefully (somewhat) keep things going without panicking everyone about having their dash explode in their faces.. a big sudden dump of billions of faulty airbags has everyone nervous. dump them onto the population in chuncks, the people aren't nervous because they didn't get a notice about their car. a year later, all of a sudden ohmygosh my car has been "expanded" into the list! by that time even if the original manufacturer (Takata) is gone, others have geared up to take its place.

with this in effect, those that cant get their airbags replaced due to no way of remanufacturing billions of units at once are less likely to sue the automakers if they do have their dash explode in their face with a letter confirming it. meanwhile, those that do not have the letter confirming the recall drive along blissfully unaware they have a fragmentation grenade in front of them until/ unless they are unlucky enough to have it go off. those are then "looked at" and maybe another round of recalls go out, but so sorry.

a case for you.... I submit Clifford the big Red Dog (aka my wifes now deceased 2009 Tor Red Dodge Charger) it got the recall for the *Driver side* airbag shortly after all this came out. took several months to get parts available for fix. when they got the part Dodge called us and we got it replaced. fastforward a year... we get the recall for the passenger side. so tell me... as you pointed out above, they knew at the getgo... why weren't both identified as bad and replaced at the same time? answer, they played the odds game. odds were the car if it were in an accident might not have a passenger in it, but definitely *would* have a driver.

This fact bore them out, in 2019 I was in an accident that totalled out Clifford. let me tell you, eating a properly functioning airbag is not pleasant, I can only imagine if It had not been replaced. No passengers, so even though it was replaced, it didn't go off

Play the odds, Control the bleed.

 

[Dirtman]

I see your point. There was no way Takata was never gonna make it out of this intact though. No matter what, the shear global size of their screw up was too big to overcome. They got sued by just about every country on earth.

I can understand slowly doing the recalls. I read all the original details about the recall and what/why the inflators went bad. Humidity and heat was the major factory in if/when the inflators began to deteriorate. I don't know if they applied recalls using this fact (regional recalls in hot humid places first, cold dry places last) but that would seem to be the logical choice instead of saying ok lets do the passengers side now and the drivers side in 5 years or vice versa even though we know both are bad.

I only had my passengers side airbag fixed. Never got a notice about the drivers side. If I get a notice that they are now recalling the drivers side I'm gonna be pretty pissed off by the shear stupidity of that...

 

[97RangerXLT]

I see your point. There was no way Takata was never gonna make it out of this intact though. No matter what, the shear global size of their screw up was too big to overcome. They got sued by just about every country on earth.

I can understand slowly doing the recalls. I read all the original details about the recall and what/why the inflators went bad. Humidity and heat was the major factory in if/when the inflators began to deteriorate. I don't know if they applied recalls using this fact (regional recalls in hot humid places first, cold dry places last) but that would seem to be the logical choice instead of saying ok lets do the passengers side now and the drivers side in 5 years or vice versa even though we know both are bad.

I only had my passengers side airbag fixed. Never got a notice about the drivers side. If I get a notice that they are now recalling the drivers side I'm gonna be pretty pissed off by the shear stupidity of that...

i believe you can go to NHTSA and enter your VIN to see if it needs a recall. maybe you got lucky and the driver side was sourced from a known good batch... but in case the notification missed you for whatever reason and the Ford Tech's were just in tunnel vision to replace only the one on the recall letter that you brought in... NHTSA should let you know if yours needs replacing.

 

[Roert42]

I’ve had just the drivers side replaced on my 2011 in 2018/2019.

I’ve also head they they were using new, but still prone to the defect, airbags to replace the original ones. This give them a bit more time before they deteriorate. Then later going back and replacing them with non defective unit to solve the problem.

 

[Uncle Gump]

I wasn't aware that they even had an issue with the driver air bag...

 

[ericbphoto]

I wasn't aware that they even had an issue with the driver air bag...

I've had issues with a lot of driver airbags over the years.

 

[Dirtman]

i believe you can go to NHTSA and enter your VIN to see if it needs a recall. maybe you got lucky and the driver side was sourced from a known good batch... but in case the notification missed you for whatever reason and the Ford Tech's were just in tunnel vision to replace only the one on the recall letter that you brought in... NHTSA should let you know if yours needs replacing.

I got the notice of the recall only for the passengers side along with a letter stating something along the lines of - "we don't have the parts to fix this so kindly screw off until we contact you again, please don't try to disable the airbag in the meantime you idiot."

Then about 8 months later I got a second letter stating they finally had the parts in my area but I had to call my local dealer so they could order the parts for me...

Then about a month later the dealer finally called back to say they had the parts and to make an appointment to bring the truck in...

Then about another month later before I actually got said appointment and had the truck fixed...

So about a year passed between the recall notice and the repair and I was hopeful that was the end of the stupidity...

 

[Bgunner]

I find it weird that they recalled them already but didn't do it all at the sametime. My truck is the last year without airbags so I guess in a way I lucked out with the airbag fiasco.

 

[19Walt93]

I’ve had just the drivers side replaced on my 2011 in 2018/2019.

I’ve also head they they were using new, but still prone to the defect, airbags to replace the original ones. This give them a bit more time before they deteriorate. Then later going back and replacing them with non defective unit to solve the problem.

We did the drivers side first, the recall had us replace what used to be called the ignitor but was renamed the inflator to make it sound safer. The right side complete air bag was done in 2018-2019. Recalls aren't a negative thing, they're free new parts.