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Shit... I might have to buy a new vehicle.
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Shit... I might have to buy a new vehicle.
The 3 liter v6 diesel for the F-150 is at least partially based on a land rover design, or it was developed with them, and that engine is actually made in Britain. I was surprised to see a timing belt on it at the auto show.
I don't think It'd fit in the ranger. I honestly don't know if there will be a diesel ranger - the inline 5 diesel from the US transit could fit, but I don't think that engine will meet future emissions requirements. They could do a ford 4-cylinder diesel that's common in Europe, but I don't know if they'd bother getting it approved for the US market for only one vehicle.
I think the 2.3 ecoboost will be the only engine in the ranger for a while, at least until a mid cycle refresh.
Maybe there will be a bigger gas engine later on, who knows.
I think the engine choices were made for fuel economy, the ranger has to get better gas mileage than the F-150.
IIRC Colorado has surpassed the tow rating of my '02 5.4 F-150 and the Tacoma is pretty close... might be interesting.the 2.3L puts out 280 hp and 310 torque in the exporer, if they're close to that. In '05 for comparison, the 5.4L put out 300hp and 365 torque in the f-150. Another comparison, 3.3L in the 2018 F-150 puts out 290 hp and 265 t. I don't really see a need for another engine at this point for an average buyer. Most won't pull anything, and nearing 300 horse with a 10 speed and 300 ft/lb of torque, it would pull anything I would want to pull behind the midsize safely. If they did bring in the 2wd regular cab version, maybe add something around a 1.5l ecoboost and shoot for the moon in mpg's
EB or otherwise I think towing MPG still sucks across the board.Since none of us has seen power figures for the 2019 2.3 Ranger engine I will hold judgement until those numbers are out and I have had a chance to test drive one equipped similar to what I would buy. I will also wait to see some reviews and what kind of fuel mileage numbers it gets while towing the max it is rated for. I doubt all that will be available until at least a year from now.
Then I will probably start looking for a leftover 2018 F-150 Screw 4x4 with a 5.0L.
Problem that I'm fearing, the mpg's won't be much better, and to get the options I want, I could get a 2 or 3 year old low mileage loaded up F-150 cheaper.Then I will probably start looking for a leftover 2018 F-150 Screw 4x4 with a 5.0L.
That is what I did 12 years ago. Hard to spend the same $$ on a smaller truck, with less power and less seating that gets the same mileage. It is going to be hard to buck that although at least in my area though 2-3 yo F-150's don't depreciate like they used to until they get up there one miles.Problem that I'm fearing, the mpg's won't be much better, and to get the options I want, I could get a 2 or 3 year old low mileage loaded up F-150 cheaper.
You should be looking for a leftover 2018 F-150 SCrew 4x4 with the 3.0 diesel if you want reasonable numbers towing at midsize max. Or a Colorado Crew 4x4 with Duramax.I will also wait to see some reviews and what kind of fuel mileage numbers it gets while towing the max it is rated for.
Then I will probably start looking for a leftover 2018 F-150 Screw 4x4 with a 5.0L.
The ability to find parking with Ranger is worth almost costing the same - specifically my 18' deep garage that an F-150 will never snuggle into - heck, the F-150 would struggle to fit through the 7' door even with mirrors folded in.Hard to spend the same $$ on a smaller truck, with less power and less seating that gets the same mileage.
My Ranger of original size (as in the same body as 1983 original ) has a permanent claim to my single car garage so that is kind of a non issue. It would be nice to have top option to boot it to the barn and be able to pull the dd in the garage for repairs though.'Course I am one of the weird ones which would have bought Ranger in original size...
Not interested in the added initial cost, maintenance costs, fuel costs and general inconvenience of a diesel. I don't tow on a regular basis either but I still want a reasonably sized truck that can handle 7000 lbs when I need it to without all those issues.You should be looking for a leftover 2018 F-150 SCrew 4x4 with the 3.0 diesel if you want reasonable numbers towing at midsize max. Or a Colorado Crew 4x4 with Duramax.
The Duramax will probably get 50% better mileage when towing; the right tool for the job.
Given >90% of my mileage is without trailer, I'll take the hit when I put the the camper on & hook up the boat.
Who else makes a midsize that would top the 2.3?If you're not comfortable with the idea of a 2.3L EB in a 4x4 crewcab occasionally towing at it's max rating in mountainous terrain then you can either buy a truck that is bigger than you need 90% of the time or you can shop elsewhere.