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i just bought a 96 351 w roller motor for my 87 4x4 ranger yesterday and i have a couple questions . i decided to go with the carb route i was wondering if any one had experience with the holley truck avenger carb on a 4x4 truck and if it would be my best choce for carbs. and also what kind of mechanical fuel pump most are going with . and lastly when it comes to motor mounts i have heard a couple of different ones to go with but im not sure witch one will put my motor in the best spot. i will post pics soon of the swap. any one with help or pointers on this swap i appreciate the info.

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Mr. Gasket p/n 12S is all the fuel pump you'll need for a carbed motor. Both Advance Auto and Autozone stock it on their shelves. As for mounts, you'll need the transfer case too and put it all in place to figure where the mounts will need to bolt to the crossmember.
 

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thanx man also i hear the stock 5 speed connected to my 2.9 in my 87 ranger would bolt up to the 351 if thats true i will run it untill it breaks which im sure wont take long .
 

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If it would, it might last long enough for the test drive. You had better get a different tranny from the start. After you get your swap done you are not going to want to be fixin it right away. Trust me, do it right the first time.
 

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If it would, it might last long enough for the test drive. You had better get a different tranny from the start. After you get your swap done you are not going to want to be fixin it right away. Trust me, do it right the first time.
:agree: In response to both questions he asked, "No it won't bolt up" and "No it won't last 5 minutes if it did" There was an adapter made for this, but for what you'll pay for it, you'd be money ahead buying a V8 transmission to start with.
 

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what do yall think would be wiser to keep it maual or go automatic transmission ?how far back would the shifter come on a zf5 speed what is involved in dropping in a c6.
 
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the pump will require work(timming cover ,cam excentric)just use efi pump and return style regulator
 

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the pump will require work(timming cover ,cam excentric)just use efi pump and return style regulator
i was wondering what you mean by (timming cover ,cam excentric)this would be affected by an electric fuel pump?
 

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The the newer EFI engines had no use for an eccentric for a mechanical pump. Most likely there won't be one in there to drive your pump. I'm a fan of electric pumps and I used return regulator as well. As far as your trans selection, the C6 is the much easier way to go. You need a bodylift for a ZF, the shifter need modified but you can make it fit if that is want you want. Next time around on my truck I'm using a C6; I'll scatter a ZF.

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does the tail end of a c6 have the same bolt pattern as the e40d in other words can it run a bw13-56 tcase?
 

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Yep, the C6 will use any fullsize ford t-case including the 1356 if that is what you wish to use.

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yea i have an extra one left over from my bronco
 

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ok so what is involved in going from a manual 5 speed ranger to a c6 automatic my buddy tells me all i need to do is cut off my clutch peddle and run a shift linkange into the cab, and kick down cable . seems too easy
 

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It's not hard. My truck was a factory 5 speed, then had a V8 and C4, and the C4 was replaced with the ZF. Do you want the truck to function as factory? Reguardless what you need to do is take the wires from the clutch interlock and run them to a neutral safety switch. That will take care of the starting in gear problem. As far as a shifter do yourself a favor and use a floor mounted aftermarket shifter. They are simple to hook up, adjust, and you can put your switch for reverse lights and NNS there too. You can cut off the clutch pedal but it would be more effective to swap in a pedal from an auto and keep the clutch setup just incase you find a good deal on a manual trans later down the road. With a C6 you don't "need" a kickdown you can just pull the shifter down from 3rd to 2nd and so on. You can hook up a kickdown if desired.

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thanx man also would the stock exhaust manifolds off a v8 explorer fit with the 351 with no steering issues or frame cutting.
 
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