Ford teases the new Bronco

[rusty ol ranger]

Piles of well maintained 5yo 100k mile fleet trucks out there.

Thats great, but those rank #3 on the "got shit kicked out of"
scale. Right behind rentals and 16yr olds first car

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Thats great, but those rank #3 on the "got shit kicked out of"
scale. Right behind rentals and 16yr olds first car

We have two, they are great trucks.

The '96 was a 190k mile truck that was a supervisor favorite at a construction company, the '04 F-250 was a 120k service truck for an elevator repair company.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I really have no idea why my choice of vehicle is so important to yall.

But either way, the fact remains new trucks just dont do it for me, espicially the new 150s.

 

[bobbywalter]

have you ever seen my truck? there are tractors that are much better in comforts and road manners....



...this thread is the why......or the why not of buying a new offering. your in here so i assume your in the running...


whether or not a new style bronco or ranger sits in the yard when i off the new explorer we got a few months back will be relevant to this discussion...


hopefully by then they will have been out long enough to make a solid choice.


i use a eb 150 and 6.2 250/350's.....periodically. i have owned big blocks and powerstrokes.


the 150 eb is a swiss army knife from hell. the 15-16-17 and this new one just keep getting better....but i dont have the long term experience with one either...so maybe it is the new to me thing.

but that payment.....in relatives with a work platform is actually quite affordable.


for what i have been doing....i will keep driving my ranger. they point....they laugh.....i get where i go....wobbling along nice and slow.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Im of the school of thought my paid for truck gets me to tge same exact place your fancy new one wil,

 

[2002edgeplussupercab]

Yes, but thats if you buy new. Im not spending 40k on a truck. Ill pinch a penny till it shits a dime. I was talking in the 2-5yr old used market.

If i bought brand new thru special order, as much as im not a diesel fan, itd be a stripper ram aith a cummins/6sp

You are driving old POS trucks but you will never buy a newer used POS truck. Isn't that what you are saying ? Lots of used trucks out there 5+ years old as I described.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

You are driving old POS trucks but you will never buy a newer used POS truck. Isn't that what you are saying ? Lots of used trucks out there 5+ years old as I described.

None of my trucks are "POS"es.

Ill bet my trucks do more work in a damn week then that grocery getter 3.0 edge does in a frickin year. Just because (mainly the 77) has some patina and scars earned from hard fought battles and a life of servitude doesnt qualify it as a POS.

Fastest ways to piss me off is by insulting my family, my trucks, or my ol lady, in that order.

 

[fastpakr]

Dustin, you definitely missed the point being made there.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Thats cause, really, its a dumb point.

Ill say it for the 133,652nd time....

I dont like newer trucks

 

[TrackRider54]

It's all relative.

I take excellent care of my cars and trucks. The smallest scratch is attended to. The tinest stain on the seats is shampooed. My father was born in the middle of the Great Depression. One thing he instilled in me is "take care of your things and keep them nice". I'd venture to guess that after I buy a new vehicle it is put in better shape than when it left the factory. Clayed, polished, waxed and fawned over like a new baby. I probably have as much money invested in cleaning products as some people's cars are worth.

I understand having a work truck for your job or farm duty. But I don't live on a farm. I don't tow or haul anything other than my motorcycle, camping gear, mountain bike, friends, family, and business colleagues.

My vehicles are not simply to get me from one place to another. I enjoy driving. I love going to cars and coffee. I do my own maintenance and enjoy it. My vehicles live in a pristine garage, which is also clean. Most of the time you could eat off my garage floor. I mop it just like the rest of the house. If it has an engine, I love it. My cars are my toys. They are not "tools" as they are for some folks. Longest I've ever kept a vehicle is three years. Then I'm usually on to the next one that strikes my fancy. The one that makes me look back when I walk away and think, "Man, I love that car".

Some folks gamble. Some folks drink or smoke. Some folks take vacations. Some folks attend sporting events and concerts. I buy cars and motorcycles. That's my vice.

Once my cars get a rattle, squeak, or dings I can't fix...I typically get rid of them.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Im of the school of thought my paid for truck gets me to tge same exact place your fancy new one wil,

When the starter died in my 16yo dd last week that has been paid for for 8.5 years it sure didn't get me very far. I was glad it happened close to home and in nice weather. And I HATE working on DD's. Working on the Ranger is fun, working on the thing I gotta depend on to get to work the next day is work.

You are driving old POS trucks but you will never buy a newer used POS truck. Isn't that what you are saying ? Lots of used trucks out there 5+ years old as I described.

None of my trucks are "POS"es.

Ill bet my trucks do more work in a damn week then that grocery getter 3.0 edge does in a frickin year. Just because (mainly the 77) has some patina and scars earned from hard fought battles and a life of servitude doesnt qualify it as a POS.

Fastest ways to piss me off is by insulting my family, my trucks, or my ol lady, in that order.

No need to be insulting each other's trucks guys.

Thats cause, really, its a dumb point.

Ill say it for the 133,652nd time....

I dont like newer trucks

I mean this the nicest way possible, if you don't like newer trucks you could just go with that and don't constantly run them down.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I dont feel like i run them down. I just point things out in such a way it sounds like it. Everyone ignores the fact that, sure, on paper they will do what a mid 90s 3/4 ton will do, but in reality either truck has more capability then id say 80% of people use anyways, that being said the other 20% who use their trucks to haul stuff/pull stuff beyond those capabilites generally go straight for a diesel 3/4-1ton. Plus, i just like to make the fact known that they arnt the mythical godlike things some make them out to be. Id hate for some random joe google "old trucks vs new" ur something trying to decide what to spend his hard earned money on and get pushed away from the older stuff just because no one ever really gives most of it a fair shake, if that makes sense.

I dont mind working on the 77, most stuff can be changed in less then an hour and for less then 50 bucks. I think the biggest PITA project ive done on it was radius arm bushings.

But, i also, always had atleast 1 back up vehicle. Always. Even a car you bought new yesterday might not start at 3am today when your late for work.

 

[fastpakr]

I dont feel like i run them down. I just point things out in such a way it sounds like it. Everyone ignores the fact that, sure, on paper they will do what a mid 90s 3/4 ton will do, but in reality either truck has more capability then id say 80% of people use anyways, that being said the other 20% who use their trucks to haul stuff/pull stuff beyond those capabilites generally go straight for a diesel 3/4-1ton.

Where you cause drama is making claims that the modern trucks can't do something you can do with the older vehicles, but have no evidence to back it up (or, people provide evidence to the contrary and you simply ignore it).

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Drama is caused on any internet site with public interaction anytime someone brings up things to dispute against popular opinion.

All ive really said they cant do is hit a deer without being smashed to hell (cmon dude, thats true and you know it), while an old one can.

Also, that they lack ground clearence for bouncing thru ditches and things, also true. A new 4wd F150 sits about the same height at the rockers as a 2wd OBS. Plus those huge, low, flimsy bumpers on the front dont help.

As far as what i said about safety, thats about impossible to really prove because testing methods have changed, espicially if you go back into the 70s. Like i said, crumple zones are better in a single vehicle wreck against something harder then you (IE a tree). In a crash with a "stiff" vehicle the crumple zoner will protect the driver of the "stiff" vehicle by cushioning the impact. It decelerates both sets of occupants, but because you more less have a battering ram slicing thru sheet metal the people in the crumple zoner are more at risk.

Its like dropping a cinder block onto a cardboard box, the carboard box crumples and deforms while the cinder block comes out unscathed.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Here, watch this...i forgot about this little video. Granted, its not perfect, seeing as how its done with a 78/79 F150, its not "offset" and its against an 89 or so escort, but it illistrates what im talking about, and collisions this style are much more common then a dead nuts high speed "offset" head on against 2 vehicles of the same "class". Not to mention, the 78/79s had notched fenders and hoods to crumple more, a 77-back would have sliced it in half.

https://youtu.be/3ReZ0C_UF-8

Shoot it full of holes if you wish, but i know which one id rather be in.

Or this...steel 150 vs aluminum 150, yeah, looks safe.

https://youtu.be/3TjQo9jnCew