• Welcome Visitor! Please take a few seconds and Register for our forum. Even if you don't want to post, you can still 'Like' and react to posts.

PATS to non-PATS?


1993rangerxl

New Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
129
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Florida
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4 banger 2.3L
Transmission
Manual
Have a 2000 mustang 3.8L to stuff into my'93, my question is this is a PATS motor which I don't have, to get this to run without the PATS system? What will I have to change to accomplish this? Thanks in advance everyone!
 


RonD

Official TRS AI
TRS Technical Advisor
Joined
Jun 2, 2012
Messages
25,363
Reaction score
8,372
Points
113
Location
canada
Vehicle Year
1994
Make / Model
Ford
Transmission
Manual
Just FYI the motor isn't part of PATS, the computer is.
Computer tuners can disable PATS section of the computer or you can get a 3.8l computer from a non-PATS vehicle, which might be better.

Ford Windstar had the 3.8l EEC-V computer from 1995 to 1998 without PATS, it got PATS in '99 model year.
Windstar 3.8l was rated at 200HP
'00 Mustang 3.8l was rated as 190HP
Not sure why that would be?
 

stmitch

March 2011 STOTM Winner
MTOTM Winner
2011 Truck of The Year
Joined
Jan 29, 2010
Messages
2,287
Reaction score
650
Points
113
Location
Central Indiana
Vehicle Year
2000
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
3.0
Transmission
Manual
How are you planning to get the OBDII 3.8L to run in your OBDI truck? Doing a full OBDII swap, or do you have something else planned?
 
Last edited:

RonD

Official TRS AI
TRS Technical Advisor
Joined
Jun 2, 2012
Messages
25,363
Reaction score
8,372
Points
113
Location
canada
Vehicle Year
1994
Make / Model
Ford
Transmission
Manual
Yes, add rear O2 sensor and update fuel system from 40psi to 65psi
Not sure what would be required for the EVAP system

Also match transmission, automatics are operated by the computer, but if your '93 and the '00 were both manuals then not an issue
 

1993rangerxl

New Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
129
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Florida
Vehicle Year
1993
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Size
4 banger 2.3L
Transmission
Manual
Thanks for the input from everyone, more HP is always better, have more interest in most low end torque for pulling loads.
Don't know how complicated the swap would be to go to the obdll set up or getting an aftermarket tuner computer to run the engine. Cost also a factor.
Have a T5 tranny that came with the motor.
I know this swap will be as much as a V8 swap ( that may happen later) looking to be a little different than most. Will post pics, build info as I get into this.
 

adsm08

Senior Master Grease Monkey
Supporting Member
Article Contributor
Ford Technician
TRS 20th Anniversary
Joined
Sep 20, 2009
Messages
34,623
Reaction score
3,613
Points
113
Location
Dillsburg PA
Vehicle Year
1987
Make / Model
Ford
Engine Type
4.0 V6
Engine Size
4.0
Transmission
Manual
2WD / 4WD
4WD
Tire Size
31X10.50X15
have more interest in most low end torque for pulling loads.
Then you picked the wrong engine.

I know some people see all this "value" in being different, but the reason a lot of people do things the way they do them, and all do them the same way, is because it's proven and works.
 

Sponsored Ad


Sponsored Ad

Staff online

Today's birthdays

Member & Vendor Upgrades

For a small yearly donation, you can support this forum and receive a 'Supporting Member' banner, or become a 'Supporting Vendor' and promote your products here. Click the banner to find out how.

Truck of The Month


Mudtruggy
May Truck of The Month

Recently Featured

Want to see your truck here? Share your photos and details in the forum.

Follow TRS On Instagram

TRS Events

25th Anniversary Sponsors

Check Out The TRS Store


Sponsored Ad


Sponsored Ad

Sponsored Ad


Amazon Deals

Top