Bugging Out / Survival

[Jim Oaks]

Way to go you motorboating SOB! LOL!!

 

[survivaldude]

Hi,

I just reviewed five different 72 hours survival food kits here - -

72 hour survival kits review

possibly this can help.

IMHO have food and survival kit ready into grab and go bag somewhere near in case of emergency is a must for everyone who think about family safety. Responsibility, that how we call this.

Kind regards,
Survivalist Dude

 

[Will]

Anyone see that old Gregory Peck movie, On the Beach?

 

[4.0B2]

Hi,

I just reviewed five different 72 hours survival food kits here - -

72 hour survival kits review

possibly this can help.

IMHO have food and survival kit ready into grab and go bag somewhere near in case of emergency is a must for everyone who think about family safety. Responsibility, that how we call this.

Kind regards,
Survivalist Dude

i don't think spam has ever been so relevant before...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I was just going to give props for your use of "crick" everyone makes fun of me for that one, then you go and tell me i mis spelled silo.....

I didn't really say you misspelled it, just complimenting on creative letter useage. I honestly thought it was a neat way to spell it.

I think people are mostly going to be affected by natural disasters. If you ever get burried in a snow storm you can appreciate the ability of a 4x4 and the importance of having plenty of fuel in the tank and food on hand.

If you get buried in a good snow storm that 4x4 will do nothing but give you a false sense of security until you bury it out in the middle of nowhere all by your lonesome. A snowmobile or something that is made to deal with snow is the only way to go for that. Problem is older ones are problematic money pits and new ones are too expensive to sit around just until needed (and then they turn into an older money pit themselves)

We had a series of big snow storms two years ago, wheeled vehicles were pretty much worthless... they were clearing roads with full blown bulldozers after they got tired of digging out the regular snowplows and road graders. 4x4 or even 6x6 is worthless in a 10'+ drift. Even then it wasn't the end of the world, here in town it wasn't terrible. There were enough guys out there in the country with tractors and nothing but free time and a neccessity to feed livestock to get a path to the highway clear that most people were not stuck more than a couple days.

I think one big downfall of gasoline engines will be the gasoline we have now since it goes bad really quick. In the past I have seen pics of cars in German occupied countries during WW2 that were converted to run on gasified wood. I have seen a couple of these recently on TV shows and they are pretty simple. I remember during Katrina all the people on roofs,some of them dying of dehydration for lack of water that didn't have any idea they could've gotten drinkable water from water heaters and toilet tanks. I am a Christian so my beliefs do change the survival scenario a little bit but still it up to us to prepare. I had a neighbor who moved here who had a "Survivalist" group that I joined at around age 13. We had vets and a couple active Reserve Special Forces guys and trained like they do. Our purpose then was to survive when the nukes fell and then fight the Russians who might have come after until they killed us off,we even helped train the local ROTC and Army Reserve in mock battle....what a blast

If you knew how to do it, you could grow corn and store and distill it into alchohol which some engines can run decentish on (if the fuel system is set up for it and has higher compression)

Water would be easy to distill into pure water too.

 

[survivaldude]

i don't think spam has ever been so relevant before...

why spam? Damn, spend a day going trough each of this kits.

 

[cody93]

one time i drank flood water for 50$ as a bet, somehow i didn't get sick... well, if i had to do it again, i would of distilled water before drinkin it.. alcohol is a great idea, but my plans are to harness methane gas and compress it, still figuring how to do it first.. the biggest problem with alcohol is its very corrosive, home brewed tends to have lots of water in unless its like xxxxx...

 

[John Smith]

A few practical food tips..

Learn how to "sprout" most seeds...(beans, lintels, mung, alphalfa, peas, etc)
It will grow indoors out of site,
forever fresh...

also learn what =grows naturally locally wherever u are..good source

http://www.youtube.com/user/EatTheWeeds

also get a Berkey water filter...

and /or a antiradiation portable water filter..

Stock up on baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, and alka-seltzer cold plus...

just do the best you can to learn what works wherever you find yourself...

get a little sun on clear sky sunny days (vitamin d)..the list goes on...

and if you find yourself in an area less than 300' abouve sea level...invest in a floatation device...may a late 80's OMC powered 2.3L Ford BAYLINER?...might as well float away in style...also makes for a good rv for onights if weather gets deep....Seriously...tsunami's are a part of our future i feel..at SOME point for SOME people...as we have seen....

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

and if you find yourself in an area less than 300' abouve sea level...invest in a floatation device...may a late 80's OMC powered 2.3L Ford BAYLINER?...might as well float away in style...also makes for a good rv for onights if weather gets deep....Seriously...tsunami's are a part of our future i feel..at SOME point for SOME people...as we have seen....

Not sure how a little pleasure boat will take a tsunami, I remember seeing a bunch of those things either floating upside down or stranded inland after it is all said and done.

 

[John Smith]

Point well taken...

I was actually trying to balance the potential of tradegy a little bit...but now that i think about it..maybe some type of Zodiac/sevylor product..could be useful to navigate across a pond or lake or high water if taken with you on a bugout...

inflatable tahiti's/2-6 person rafts etc are popular fishing tools where i live... or just a personal inflatable fishing vest?...if nothing else..a life vest?...Actually it may be possible if you believe some of the maps floating around on the net...after a major quake some of us may find ourselves on an island..that is if we "made it to high ground"...it may be hard to take that super4004WD off that island...but a flotation device w/power could perhaps make the journey...if a journey is actually desired..

I agree with Jim, a "natural/(un-natural)" disaster is probably more likely...or at least one that God Allows....And incoming water at some point will be part of that for some of us I believe...then that's just part of my information belief...

Not sure how a little pleasure boat will take a tsunami, I remember seeing a bunch of those things either floating upside down or stranded inland after it is all said and done.

 

[Jim Oaks]

Bug Out Vehicle - Gas or Diesel? Which one would be easier to fuel later? I know you can find a heck of a lot more gas stations with gas than diesel. Of course, you'd need a pump & hose to get it out of the tanks.

 

[CHKNFKR]

Bug Out Vehicle - Gas or Diesel? Which one would be easier to fuel later? I know you can find a heck of a lot more gas stations with gas than diesel. Of course, you'd need a pump & hose to get it out of the tanks.

Diesel. It's a more abundant fuel as it is, and diesel engines can run on a wider variety of fuels, with little to no modification (depending on the fuel.) i'd even go so far as to say an older cummins, continental, or cat engine, with minimal electronics, not because of the emp thing, because eventually electronic parts will fail, when that happens the likelyhood of finding good replacement parts will be slim.

All that is in the "total collapse of society and civility" situation

 

[John Smith]

gasoline, flex, alcohol...

definately...and of course the necessary 12V/electric/manual barrell pump would also be on the basic needs list even for friendly use for your own personal above/below ground tanks when no power is available

Bug Out Vehicle - Gas or Diesel? Which one would be easier to fuel later? I know you can find a heck of a lot more gas stations with gas than diesel. Of course, you'd need a pump & hose to get it out of the tanks.

 

[superds]

I think diesel is better, especially a simple mechanical injected diesel. While diesel fuel is not as common at inner city gas stations, if you're bugging out, you're sure to cross by many truck stops, farmers, and crops that could be turned into fuel just as easily as distilling to make ethanol.

 

[JC 97]

I live near a big city,There is no way I would get my family to the country.So my options are improvise,overcome and adapt.