new motor in, some sort of chirp going on

[lifted4.0]

heyy guys/gals, soo i put my new built motor in...yadda yadda...with the m112 on it...and the spec stage 5 clutch (i needed the clutch, some said spec was legit..some said they would not goo with spec...at all...some said that they have had some small problems with spec...) soo that was mixed feelings with that..but centreforce didnt have the dual friction clutch for another like 3 weeks..and i HAD to put the motor in...and soo i went to spec and scoped that out and got the stage 5 because the rep told me that it would hold the most torque at 510 at the flywheel...stage 4 was 420...stage 3+ was 370 stage 3 was like 320...and i was planning on putting about 300whp down, which would hopefully be about 360ish wtq...which is somewhere above/around 420..soo to be safe on that i went to stage 5....PROBABLY OVERKILL...i notice that now.... ..

but onto the problem...the setup only has 110miles on it now..soo i guess its kinda hard to judge the problem, but anyway...i ahev to like relearn how to drive cause the clutch is like sooo sticky that WOW...but anyway again

when i left the tuner shop (they tuned the fuel trims to make it driveable) i heard this like chirping noise as if i was breifly spinning the tires...and the tuner was like, waoh i was not hearing that on the dyno...and he thought it was coming from upfront...soo we were guessing the clutch or something to do with the clutch

soo i drive it around blah blah and its just SCREAMING (chirping) but like really whinning and high pitched when i pull from a stop...more soo when i ride the clutch alittle..but i dont think the tranny will be able to really take me just dropping the clutch, and that will be hard on all the joints....but it chirps in 1st...then i shift to second and it slightly chirps..and sometimes it chirped going into 3rd....now after driving it alittle...i started to realized if i try to rev match the shifts and slowly let the clutch out...SLOWLY it wont do it...just coming out of a stop it will...WIERD....but driving today...i went through all the shifts and IT DIDNT DO IT..AT ALL...not even from a stop....

then when i get home, im pulling onto the lawn and its making the chirping sound when my foot is nowhere near the clutch...this also happened when i was breaking while the truck was still in gear...just foot on the break..and it was like chirping....soooo that throw out my thoughts about stuff that had to deal with the truck just starting up or whatever...like the clutch being like too good and the clutch making contact with the flywheel and making a chirp or something? i dk..

anyone have any ideas for me? thanks

 

[RangerSVT]

Try pulling your starter and see if your clutch is making contact with it, you should see some wear marks on the nose of your starter. Did you install the shim plate between the motor and trans?? How about your clutch slave cylinder, is it contacting the clutch?? Throwout bearing, is it new/upgraded?? Is the Throwout bearing capable of handling the extra force the clutch has?? I'd check those and see, its a process of elimination
SVT

 

[lifted4.0]

how would the cclutch be hitting the starter? yaa i installed the plate between the motor and trans. not sure if the slave cylinder is contacting, throw out bearing came with clutch.

 

[fishinfool]

give it time spec clutch's take a while to break in, my cousin has an 04 cobra and his spec3+ was ridiculously stiff and it would chatter and shake the whole car on take offs, but after about 800 miles it got broke in and is a lot smoother now.

 

[lifted4.0]

yaaa im waiting for the point where i can feather 1st like i used to be able to do with my stock one (probably not gonna happen...) i can feather 2nd...and it starts...not a huge amount of chirping when i do this...soo ya i guess i just have to let it break in...

ya not sure why i went with a stage 5...although they told me that it would hold the 510ftlbs at the crank....sooo....why does my ranger have a 5 when that cobra only has a 3+

lol

 

[dieselboy740]

m112.. i had a input brg go bad and its noisy like what you describe. it doesnt do it sometimes if you catch it just right

 

[lifted4.0]

an imput bearing? is that what you mean by "brg"?....where is the imput brg? all i know if i replaced the pilot bearing, throw out, clutch and pressure plate (all came in a kit from spec)


shady crap happening lately...whenever i come to a stop and keep it in first gear....(clutch all the way pushed in, but the tranny is still in 1st)....its still engaged with the clutch pushed to the floor.......doesnt do that if i stop in 2nd...just when i stop like that in first...F***** up

 

[dieselboy740]

oh mine did it with clutch released only. Its the input shaft bearing on mine. Make a video of the sound. Id have to hear it

 

[lifted4.0]

the sound is slowly going away....210 miles on it now...its a lot better than it was 150miles in...

but im worried about the other crap........like the tranny getting stuck in first when i come to a stop when i have it in first gear...and like when im stopped, sometimes it wont go into first gear..or 2nd.....

when i started the car today...it was sitting in first, and it would not come out of first....and when i turned the car on and foot on the clutch the clutch was still engaged and wanted to pull me forward WTFF.

 

[Sevensecondsuv]

...but im worried about the other crap........like the tranny getting stuck in first when i come to a stop when i have it in first gear...and like when im stopped, sometimes it wont go into first gear..or 2nd.....

when i started the car today...it was sitting in first, and it would not come out of first....and when i turned the car on and foot on the clutch the clutch was still engaged and wanted to pull me forward WTFF.

That's exactly how my clutch in the exploder died at 150,000 miles. It was a failed slave cylinder. Please tell us you remembered to put a new slave in when you had the engine out. If you re-used the old one, probably the much stiffer spec stage 5 pressure plate finally pushed the poor old slave over the edge. I'd call up spec and see if they have a slave to go with their clutch. Otherwise make sure you get a nice high quality part like LuK or motorcraft. This is not the application for the "autozone special" slave cylinder.

 

[lifted4.0]

yaaa i called spec and they said that rangers have a tendency to have problems with the slave system...

they said to bleed the system out...and that probably the slave was heading out already and probably the stronger pressure plate and such just escalated that...

what do you i use to bleed the slave?

 

[lifted4.0]

do you think just bleeding the system will fix this problem...or is it likely that the slave or master cylinder had been shot somehow? if so how would they go? i was told by SPEC that the fluid might be watery or soemthing and bad, but i REALLY dont want to have to pull the transmission off..

 

[martin]

Check the fluid level in the master cylinder. If it's losing fluid, you will have little option but to change the slave or master or perhaps the lines. I would change the whole thing rather than go through the aggrevation of bleeding the system more than once.

 

[JamesC]

I had a problem at work like that we changed the slave and bleed everything and still had the same problem turned out to be the clutch pedal bushing was worn so when fully depressed to the floor it wasn't really fully depressed.