could this work.......

[Tony Raine]

how about a break from the pissing match.....

88_eddie, i think the simplest way to do this is to break away from the round tube axle housing. you already have axle "c's" in a rectangular housing with the mounts for coils and radius arms. although i would go ahead and upgrade to dana 44 outers for the better bearing spacing and hub choices.

bascially, cut off the beams where they attach to the frame, and connect those parts together with box steel.

the tricky part will be finding the right shaft for the passenger side

 

[cammeddrz]

the tricky part will be finding the right shaft for the passenger side

i'm interested to see how gwaii did it, does he have a build thead? did he just shorten it?

 

[Tony Raine]

i'm interested to see how gwaii did it, does he have a build thead? did he just shorten it?

i think he is still running the axle, maybe he will chime in and post some pics.

i also think he left the passenger side axle as a "2-piece" with the u-joint in the middle. i may be wrong though.

 

[cammeddrz]

Geez, I forgot all about this one lol (and it's not even a Ford, it's a .... Jeep!!)

yeah i saw that one a while back. took a lot of doin'. don't get me wrong ttb is really functional, and was years ahead of its time and i'm not challenging its functionality. all of those weak-points just lead me to believe that a ttb 44 would inherently be weaker than a solid 44 and if ttb would be as strong as a rockwell all of the extreme conversions would use it instead. (that is what i meant)

 

[cammeddrz]

i think he is still running the axle, maybe he will chime in and post some pics.

i also think he left the passenger side axle as a "2-piece" with the u-joint in the middle. i may be wrong though.

this seems like an awesome opportunity to eliminate that u-joint

 

[Sunk]

IIRC, he eliminated the pivots, but I know it has some sort of weird linked setup. I don't think there is a build thread, but if one exists somewhere I'd sure like to see it. It's got some weird combo of like 4 transmissions and 3 transfer cases.

 

[cammeddrz]

It's got some weird combo of like 4 transmissions and 3 transfer cases.

that's exactly why i said:

why does this not suprise me?

 

[Pt_Ranger_V8]

yeah i saw that one a while back. took a lot of doin'. don't get me wrong ttb is really functional, and was years ahead of its time and i'm not challenging its functionality. all of those weak-points just lead me to believe that a ttb 44 would inherently be weaker than a solid 44 and if ttb would be as strong as a rockwell all of the extreme conversions would use it instead. (that is what i meant)

I doubt your claim that a TTB version of any axle is weaker than it's straight counterpart.

The reason everyone uses rockwells for 'extreme conversions' (not sure what that is) is simply availability. It's a lot cheaper/easier to duplicate/modify an existing part than it is to completely fab up all the parts for a new center chunk, arms, gears, u-joints, etc.


As for why the TTB never had any use in 'large' applications like rockwells do? Because on a 'large' application, ride quality isn't as much of an issue (if at all).

And yes, TTB DOES work just fine offroad. So does a straight axle. It's mostly due to driver skill either way

 

[kunar]

you already have axle "c's" in a rectangular housing with the mounts for coils and radius arms....

...bascially, cut off the beams where they attach to the frame, and connect those parts together with box steel.

this is what i was thinking when i opened the thread. i remember someone else had this thought at one point. i dont remember if anything ever came of it though.

 

[88_Eddie]

how about a break from the pissing match.....

88_eddie, i think the simplest way to do this is to break away from the round tube axle housing. you already have axle "c's" in a rectangular housing with the mounts for coils and radius arms. although i would go ahead and upgrade to dana 44 outers for the better bearing spacing and hub choices.

bascially, cut off the beams where they attach to the frame, and connect those parts together with box steel.

the tricky part will be finding the right shaft for the passenger side

yeah, I thought of that as well, and yeah, you could replace the middle ujoint, but i think it would be fine to leave it too.....and cheaper

 

[gwaii]

my turn...the axle shafts from the ttb d50 were retained as they were.i simply made some brackets to tie the ttb arms together into one unit.why?because i had the parts,couldn't afford a d60,and wanted more flex.look to the left,those are the results.by the way,i now have my d60.the tied ttb was never intended to be a permanent fixture,just something to keep me going till i got what i wanted.

 

[gwaii]

It's got some weird combo of like 4 transmissions and 3 transfer cases.

close....it's actually 3 tranmissions and 2 t-cases.but still weird.

 

[cammeddrz]

I doubt your claim that a TTB version of any axle is weaker than it's straight counterpart.

if we're speaking in superboly (sp?) i just can't wrap my head around the concept that a diff with twice as many u-joints. and 2 entirely additional integral pivot-points, tying together what is for all intents and purposes a 2-piece differential having equal strength

and btw what vehicle did a ttb d50 come in?

 

[gwaii]

and btw what vehicle did a ttb d50 come in?

f 250 and 350,in the 80's and early 90's.

 

[4x4junkie]

if we're speaking in superboly (sp?) i just can't wrap my head around the concept that a diff with twice as many u-joints. and 2 entirely additional integral pivot-points, tying together what is for all intents and purposes a 2-piece differential having equal strength

and btw what vehicle did a ttb d50 come in?

One additional u-joint (which is never put to the same angle extremes as the knuckle joints anyway, so should be less likely to fail because of that).

The beam pivots have nothing to do with the strength of the shafts or diff, though I do tend to think in the case of the D44 TTB, the beam housings are a bit less sturdy than the round tube structure of the straight axle version. Though this isn't something a little plating to box the beams up can't fix.